Notices
Automotive Discussion Automotive talk that is not technical can be posted here. Posts must address the general population.

ahhhh ohhhh, Honda and Mugen are in trouble

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-01-2003, 09:51 AM
  #1  
DAAAANG & OHDAANG
Thread Starter
 
MattnTheHATch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: va beach, va
Posts: 3,441
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch MattnTheHATch
Default ahhhh ohhhh, Honda and Mugen are in trouble

Son of Honda Founder
Arrested on Tax Charges

By TODD ZAUN
Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL


TOKYO -- The son of the founder of Honda Motor Co. and a former Honda manager were arrested on suspicion of conspiring to evade corporate taxes at race-car-engine maker Mugen Co., a company that has had close ties to Japan's second-largest car maker.

Public prosecutors arrested Hirotoshi Honda, the president of Mugen and the son of the late Honda founder Soichiro Honda, along with Norio Hirokawa, Mugen's former auditor. Prosecutors suspect the two executives engineered a scheme to hide 3.8 billion yen ($31.7 million) in income and evade about 1 billion yen in corporate taxes at Mugen during the three years ended in October 2000.

The case could prove to be a major embarrassment to Honda, which was trying to help Mugen repair its tattered finances until shortly before the period of the alleged tax evasion. Mr. Hirokawa, 60 years old, was a longtime Honda finance official who was dispatched to Mugen in 1993 to help with financial planning. That same year, Honda took a 40% stake in Mugen.

Honda sold the stake back to Mugen in 1999 and now has no equity tie to the company, so Mugen's troubles are unlikely to hurt Honda financially. Yet the case could tarnish the Honda name in Japan, where the arrests were front-page news. The legend of how the late Mr. Honda built his company into a leading global car maker is as celebrated in Japan as the story of Henry Ford is in the U.S. The news comes at a time when Honda is struggling in its home market, where its sales in the first six months of the year sank 20% because of a lack of new models.

Prosecutors are investigating whether Messrs. Honda and Hirokawa conspired to reduce Mugen's reported income by making payments to lease equipment from a company they set up solely for that purpose, according to Japanese media reports. A spokesman for the Saitama District public prosecutors office, which is leading the inquiry, refused to give details of its investigation.

Hirotoshi Honda established Mugen in 1973 to build engines for race cars. The company later expanded with a line of parts for people who want to tune up their Honda cars, such as spoilers, mufflers and aluminum wheels. The company won a lucrative contract to build engines for Honda-sponsored Formula One race cars in the 1990s but fell on hard times when Honda decided to build its own engines beginning in 2000.

A spokesman for Mugen declined to comment Tuesday. Mr. Honda couldn't be reached for comment. Honda Motor spokesman Masaya Nagai said allegations of the illegal activity at Mugen were "surprising and regrettable" but declined to comment further, stressing that Honda Motor no longer has a stake in Mugen.
MattnTheHATch is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 09:59 AM
  #2  
Registered member
 
nutsack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Va beach
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack nutsack
Default

i never really liked mugen anyways.... it doesn't suprise me that honda sales are down in japan, nobody there really drives a honda... everyone there has a Nissan or Toyota... interesting info about the history of mugen..
nutsack is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 10:20 AM
  #3  
EEK
卐 Walnuts
 
EEK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Compton, Ca W
Posts: 29,360
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK EEK
Default

spoon still the og =) est 1970 =)
EEK is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 10:30 AM
  #4  
EMF S2K
 
jeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: P-Town
Posts: 4,041
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy jeremy
Default

damn
jeremy is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 10:31 AM
  #5  
Registered member
 
socket_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 1,697
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
socket_ has disabled reputation
Default

pwned
socket_ is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 11:17 AM
  #6  
.........
 
Enigma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,840
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma Enigma
Default

Well, I know why sales are down in Japan...can anyone else guess it? Why is everyone else driving Nissan's, Toyota's, Mitsu's? (rhetorical questions, if you don't know the answer then you're SOL)


Trevor
Enigma is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 11:42 AM
  #7  
DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
The Wok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Midlothian
Posts: 8,634
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok The Wok
Default

Because FWD sucks?
The Wok is offline  
Old 07-01-2003, 01:12 PM
  #8  
Die reinste Bösen.
 
gear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 5,299
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear
Default

honestly.. the hondas that are big are ALL for fuel economy... with say maybe the s2000.. which is a sports car.. With the plethora of ultra fast platforms over there, who would start with a low displacement slow engine when you can have a RWD 200hp car for a couple g's... oh sorry for rambling and back to the honda issue, i dont think itll make any difference over here.
gear is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rollinondubz
Tech Talk
0
02-21-2008 06:51 AM
one pnt 8 hatch
Tech Talk
2
03-31-2004 03:28 PM
Midnight GSI
Automotive Discussion
47
05-31-2003 04:23 PM



Quick Reply: ahhhh ohhhh, Honda and Mugen are in trouble



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:04 AM.