Open Carrier at Obama Town hall

**eXploited** · 08-13-2009 08:59 AM

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I can't believe the responses that the reporters and Chris Matthews had to his carrying a gun. If I lived in NH, I would be standing right next to him with my Sig on my side as well. I think that he's right in that you have to "exercise your rights or you will lose them". And his response about whether or not his gun was loaded was the best thing I've heard in a long time. Why would you not carry it loaded? Even if you don't carry "cocked and locked", but even carrying condition 4 is fine with me. (Cartridges in the magazine, empty chamber, hammer forward) Then at least you have a chance to defend yourself.

And I think that open carry should be an option nationwide. Concealed carry is one subject that is tough to call because of the individual state's requirements on who can carry and what each person must do to be able to. But open carry is a much simpler topic. If you have a problem with people carrying their firearm to defend themselves, then maybe you should take a look at the Constitution again and decide if you want to live in this country or not.

There was recently a bill that made its way into congress (I believe it was shot down by the way) that had a clause essentially unionizing concealed carry in the nation. This bill's provisions would let any person who had a concealed carry license in ANY state, whether resident or non-resident, to carry concealed in EVERY state that allows concealed carry, which would exclude Illinois and Wisconsin. What needs to happen is that such a bill needs to go through in the effect of open carry instead of concealed carry. The problem with the bill that was written was that voters did not like the fact that a person who lives in a state like Alaska or New Hampshire, who have no requirements for concealed carry, could carry in a state like New York or even Maryland, who have some of the harshest gun laws in the nation. For instance, in Maryland, where I live, to be eligible for a CCW permit, you have to have a court signed document saying that your life has been threatened at least once and you REQUIRE, not want, REQUIRE a handgun to be carried. That's of course for the average civilian. Doctors, lawyers, pharmacists and business owners can simply apply and get a permit however, no questions asked.

**elambz** · 08-13-2009 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by eXploited

For instance, in Maryland, where I live, to be eligible for a CCW permit, you have to have a court signed document saying that your life has been threatened at least once and you REQUIRE, not want, REQUIRE a handgun to be carried. That's of course for the average civilian. Doctors, lawyers, pharmacists and business owners can simply apply and get a permit however, no questions asked.

Stupid.

**eXploited** · 08-13-2009 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by elambz

Stupid.

I Quoted it from a site, not mine.

**Iceman05** · 08-13-2009 09:28 AM

are reporters fucking retarded or what? My god, we are going to have no rights in this country within the next generation

**Flite** · 08-13-2009 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by eXploited

QUOTED FROM A SITE I CANNOT FINE NOW! I CLOSED OUT OF IT BY ACCIDENT LMAO!

Copy and paste the first sentence in google and search for it. It brings up a ton of references for this.

**OwManThatHurt** · 08-13-2009 09:51 AM

msnbc

**MORE IMPATIENT** · 08-13-2009 10:33 AM

I would love to punch Chris Matthews right in the fucking teeth with two bricks taped to my knuckles.

**eXploited** · 08-13-2009 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by MORE IMPATIENT

I would love to punch Chris Matthews right in the fucking teeth with two bricks taped to my knuckles.

He had that guy studdering.. YOUR LIVE ON NATIONAL TV SAY WHAT YOU WANT! I know damn well I would..

It pisses me off because people are so against walking around with guns.. I tell you what, The more we do the less likely some crackhead will fuck with you.. Crime rate will go down.

Todays society is so god damn scared of a gun when they see it they act like they see Osama like for real.. When I go to Front Royal I open carry everywhere.. No one says a damn thing at all!

**Cosgrove** · 08-13-2009 11:08 AM

What did the guy think was going to happen though?

**eXploited** · 08-13-2009 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Cosgrove

What did the guy think was going to happen though?

He had it coming though to be honest..

**MORE IMPATIENT** · 08-13-2009 11:34 AM

yea thats the truth, he damn sure knew there would be some shit stirred. Props to him for doing it anyway, not saying that it was the smartest thing to do, but hey he did it. But he exercised his rights and has to take the shit for it since its so "unappropriate".

**eXploited** · 08-13-2009 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by MORE IMPATIENT

yea thats the truth, he damn sure knew there would be some shit stirred. Props to him for doing it anyway, not saying that it was the smartest thing to do, but hey he did it. But he exercised his rights and has to take the shit for it since its so "unappropriate".

Different world out there now then it was 50 years ago from what im hearing and read about.. But he did nothing wrong in my opinion its just all out looked on how people look on the world now. FUCK EM ALL

**MAD_DOHC** · 08-13-2009 11:46 AM

I'm about the biggest gun rights supporter out there as most of you know, but even I think it's fucking stupid to do this and I'm actually glad that one bill allowing nationwide CC didn't happen.

If all the states had the same requirements for individuals to get the permit, fine, but they don't. I personally think its a joke how easy it is to get one for Va. One class, shoot a couple bullets not even that accurate, here's you ability to carry a gun.

There should be minimums on this type of thing. Like how long have you been shooting, you need to fire at least a 1000rds before getting a permit, that kind of thing. There are a lot of idiots with guns that are fucking it up for those of us that aren't.

**vmspionage** · 08-13-2009 11:52 AM

I wish someone would have open carried a sniper rifle. Now that would have been funny.

**keefboz** · 08-13-2009 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by MAD_DOHC

I'm about the biggest gun rights supporter out there as most of you know, but even I think it's fucking stupid to do this and I'm actually glad that one bill allowing nationwide CC didn't happen.

If all the states had the same requirements for individuals to get the permit, fine, but they don't. I personally think its a joke how easy it is to get one for Va. One class, shoot a couple bullets not even that accurate, here's you ability to carry a gun.

There should be minimums on this type of thing. Like how long have you been shooting, you need to fire at least a 1000rds before getting a permit, that kind of thing. There are a lot of idiots with guns that are fucking it up for those of us that aren't.

What worse is that you can be in the military and you dont even have to do the class or have ever shot before! Most Navy folk i know have never done either, but if you have a military ID you dont have to have any experience apparently. Stupid.

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