djyuck

Have you considered getting the M2, which comes out in a few months? That car is going to be incredible (and will hold its value very well).

marlinspike

Only on VAdriven does personal experience of a small sample size trump the experience of an actual brand specific repair shop.

blackout

And another one... check this thread for the story- https://www.vadriven.com/forums/auto...-board-490197/

Archer

This is why I no longer try to help people on here. My sample size of 180-200 cars a month means diddly-squat.

blackout

I get that but looking back through the threads, posting that something is junk without providing any empirical evidence isn't necessarily helpful... I see you tried to explain how it works but in the end anyone reading this thread is still just left with- "yep, it's a piece of shit. Trust me."

I also get that you're trying not to air out your customer's issues... but you're not broadcasting social security numbers here. I think it's within reason that if you have anecdotal evidence to back up your claim that JBs are shit, you could scrub personally identifiable information and just provide technical details without alerting anyone to any specific customer's car...

Sure it's a lot of typing that you probably don't want to get into, but you can't expect people to just reverse everything they've come across to this point just because you said they're junk. You have to provide compelling evidence to "make it stick". If you have said evidence and are withholding it, then you're really not helping anybody. Not even trying to be a dick, it's just truth... and I'm not even considering a JB4 anymore regardless.

FlyLizards45

[IMG]IMG_8964 by Armstrong Ran, on Flickr[/IMG]My 96 m3. 220k