Originally Posted by Teggy Teg

Acura Integra or Rsx

Originally Posted by Yardjass

I'm guessing it will be geared too high to get 40 mpg but the regular gas is a plus.

I'd personally prefer one for under 30 grand with no fancy accessory options. Just a good LSD, good gearbox, and forced induction somewhere around the 200 to 250 horse mark. That would have me actually buying it. For everything else you described, I can go and spend 5 grand to get a really nice, really low mileage NA Miata with the 1.8 engine and torsen LSD, and its almost the same thing. I just don't see the point in dumping tens of thousands of dollars on the new one. The modernized chassis, suspension and gadgets just don't justify the price difference.

Originally Posted by brandini

Gah yeah you called it, but i remembered why: we get the 2L here so the US mx5 will get 36mpg but you won't have to downshift to pass when already going 65+ due to fun gearing. So they'll get 40+mpg in Eurrp, just with more slow added.

Originally Posted by brandini

True 34 manual, 36 highway but premium gas? It's gotta be tuned more aggressively than the 2L in the 3 that only needs regular. Hopefully a little more poke.

Originally Posted by brandini

Yeah but it's going to have more area under the curve than most other 2L engines, which is what makes Mazdas bearable around town and in traffic. My girlfriend has the old 2L in her smiley face 3 and it's not nearly as bad as most other high strung, similarly sized engines. The Skyactiv in her mom's 2L 3 has nearly as much punch down low as my 2.3L. It's really impressive what they've done with the engines these days.

Best video not only shows why the engine is the shit, but the manufacturing as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NXrmYB7L0Y