additions to the main site/forums.

[urvtecs2slo]

well, ive already discussed this with soulD. he told me i should post it here. there are a lot of people nowadays looking to get pictures of their cars taken. i think it would be a good idea if we did something sort of like what honda-tech has with their h-tphotocrew (reference: http://www.h-tphotocrew.com/ ). it would be a good way for users to get good quality photos of their cars done by the photographers of dragva, and also a place to display them. i have lots of ideas as to how to get this going and how to get it to work, all i need is admin/user support. leave comments and feedback. thanks.

[ritz]

You know I'm down bro and I'm sure many others are too. I think there should be a certain criteria you have to meet though. I'm not trying to sound like an asshole, but I don't think there should be guys that take excellent quality pics and someone that takes shitty pics. I believe we should vote or something on who should be part of the "crew" persay. Just my .02. I'm definitely down. Lets get something going guys.

[nothing.]

I really think this is a good idea and also a good opportunity for some people that wouldn't usually have the chance to have good pics of their car taken.

I'm inbetween cameras right now, but once I decide on what I want I'll be more than happy to help if the people think my photographs are worthy of the "crew"

Let's get this rolling. Even if I'm not one of the "crew" I'd still love to see the work some people do.

[SteveOlicious]

I think it's a dope idea. I love to see you guys shoot. And maybe I can get in on this once I graduate from the point and shoot.

[ONEFLYAZN]

yea good idea, you guys need to take nice pics of my car when its up and running :) because im sure that wont be long... lol

[Jay]

all i need is admin/user support. leave comments and feedback. thanks.

Great idea. I have heard so many times, hey so and so forum (example: DTMpower) has great pictures. It would be good to have that rep here. :thup:

[soulDistortion]

I personally like this idea: it lets local owners show off their cars and lets you damn photo nazis show off your skills.

Seeing how everyone else feels about the idea is the first step.

Next step would be to integrate this idea into dragVA.

Then, we pick the photographers, pick the cars, and get at it.

I see a "downloads" section coming from this, with wallpapers and the like.

[Slimsta Jimsta]

sounds good, i like looking at yall's pictures

[GULLIE EG]

count me in if you get this going I have a pretty good camera setup

[vasponger]

:thup: for this idea

[urvtecs2slo]

well pat, what else is it going to take to get this going?

[eng]

It's a good idea so the question of if it is going to be done isn't really an issue.

What exactly needs to be done though?

Or do you really have no idea and are looking for suggestions :)

[flow fx]

How about just two or three forums

One for posting the finished pictures only

One for requests only

Or make one for general comments and requests, and make the person type "Request-Vehicle-Date" if its a request

I just think it'd be good if everything was uniform. Not just "heres johns civic" or "the best car evaR!" etc

In the actual picture posting forum you could do "Car-Date-Username-Photographer"

And then they can have a photograph of the month or something.. nicest picture of the nicest car that month voted for by users

I dont know, I'm not a part of it no clue what they have planned

[ritz]

I for one am completely open to suggestions because I don't really know what should be done or how it should be done. Leigh ran it across me last night and there are a few local and non local people on this board that I can think of that take awesome pictures.

[eng]

How about just two or three forums Yuck.

I doubt it will come to that.

[flow fx]

eh, one? or do you not want to add a forum for it at all?

[urvtecs2slo]

i cant get into my whole concept right now, because im on my hiptop and i think my hands would explode if i tried to type it. so i will lay it allllllll out when i get home in a couple hours.

[eng]

im on my hiptop and i think my hands would explode if i tried to type it. Better get with it, Ritz and I almost have it worked out :p

[ritz]

:)

Hurry your ass Leigh.

[urvtecs2slo]

well, you guys already have most of it planned out i suppose. my only other addition to that would be to make a sub-section of the main site to post the pictures on, and create either another forum for the pictures, or just make a sub-forum of eye candy for it. i mean, i was hoping for something a little more structured than just adding a forum, but if thats what you wanna do, its your choice. i REALLY like the way h-t has their photocrew site set up. it doesnt have to be anywhere nearly as elaborate as that, but i personally would like to see a little more attention brought to it than just your everyday forum.

as far as picking the photographers goes, your idea sounds good. no problems with that.

the only thing id like to see, like i said, is a more structured, fun to look at portion of the main page with everything neatly laid out, with possibly the photographer's information, camera equipment, etc., as if it were a portfolio of sorts. if you dont know what i mean, just tell me, and ill elaborate more. but if you wanna get this going, go right on ahead.

thanks for giving it the attention it deserves.

[eng]

i mean, i was hoping for something a little more structured than just adding a forum I don't really want to add another forum, but that will be the easiest/quickest route. Unless someone else wants to create a website another (single) forum is most likely what will be used.

Self nominations are open, see this announcement for details: http://www.dragva.com/forums/announcement.php?f=20

[Goofynick6]

Sweet...I gotta get taking some pics to submit..

[zwd85]

Self nominations are open, see this announcement for details: http://www.dragva.com/forums/announcement.php?f=20

Whats the best place to host photos so I can do the above. I have hundreds of pics just all saved on my computer.

[urvtecs2slo]

www.photobucket.com

[SteveOlicious]

www.imagehost.org

[ritz]

imagehost > photobucket.

Never had a problem and never had them resize my shit.

[eng]

Updated the announcment to include the link to all the free image hosts.

http://www.dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63570

[Jay]

Here is a decent photography website, for ideas on structure...

http://www.dempa.nu/

[growley]

Sounds like a cool idea.

[THATS FRESH]

in response to your sig. the new rebel xt. there are soo many problems with $80 dollar battery that comes with the D70. ive taken shots AND printed them with the rebel300d/nikond70/canon20d and the canon pics loook waay better than then d70. under the auto mode, the canons seem to focus alot better than the d70. At 55mm, objects are as crisp as if they were shot at 28mm with the canons. At 35mm, objects start to blur and come out of focus.


id vote for a Photography/car pics only forum.

[Cosmo]

With all the professional (or just very experienced) photographers on here, perhaps there should be Drag VA calendar...

I know someone who would be more than happy to do the layout and printing...





(me)

[Kim Jong Illin]

a photography subforum would be cool...

i like www.putfile.com for quick and easy hosting.

[gear]

im down with helping...just lemme know.

[Corey]

vw vortex has an excellant picture forum. It's not at all what you guys are looking at doing, but more of a "High Quality Eye-Candy" type deal. I despise going into our Eye-candy forum and seeing a ton of low quality videos and links to ebay. I'd like to see a small forum dedicated to the amazing work these fellas turn out.

[Mr. Rooney]

easton chang owns.

[Cosmo]

I think the potential "photography forum" should have limited posting access as well. Maybe have people apply to be able to post there. I have seen tons of crappy photos for every good photo I see on here.

BTW... I know I suck. That's why I don't post pics....

[MattnTheHATch]

sounds good, i like looking at yall's pictures


:stupid:

[urvtecs2slo]

I think the potential "photography forum" should have limited posting access as well. Maybe have people apply to be able to post there. I have seen tons of crappy photos for every good photo I see on here.

BTW... I know I suck. That's why I don't post pics....
this will be happening if we get enough photographers.

[ThsPoq]

With all the professional (or just very experienced) photographers on here, perhaps there should be Drag VA calendar...

I know someone who would be more than happy to do the layout and printing...





(me)

Id buy a few drag calenders if someone made them

[Tito]

i think it'll be an awesome idea.

[SignfcntOthr]

I like the idea of creating a forum strictly for car pictures...especially since eye-candy seems to have turned into a forum of links and public PM's of inside jokes.

I also think it'd be a nice feature to have the 'photocrew' feature be a link off the dragva home page to a page dedicated to pictures of cars taken by those nominated, along with maybe a little background on the photographer and his gear.

[urvtecs2slo]

I like the idea of creating a forum strictly for car pictures...especially since eye-candy seems to have turned into a forum of links and public PM's of inside jokes.

I also think it'd be a nice feature to have the 'photocrew' feature be a link off the dragva home page to a page dedicated to pictures of cars taken by those nominated, along with maybe a little background on the photographer and his gear.
this is also what i want. but we just need to get things off the ground to begin with.

[SignfcntOthr]

this is also what i want. but we just need to get things off the ground to begin with.

Why not wait and get it set up 'properly'? (for lack of a better word)

[urvtecs2slo]

we need photographers, first.

[Soon2BeStangin]

Id defniately be up for taking some pics, still have a Canon G3, but I use it pretty well.

Here are a few that I've got handy.

One (http://www.mustangmods.com/data/1111/goodflower.jpg)

Two (http://www.mustangmods.com/data/1111/116_1612.jpg)

Three (http://www.mustangmods.com/data/1111/engine3_filtered.jpg)

[urvtecs2slo]

send in pictures to eng.

[MerF]

Bump for a great idea.

When/ifI decide on a camera, I'll be asking to join the crew. I'm not sure how else to help at this point.

I do want to second or third or whatever the notion to make the main page a usable thing again. I can't even remember the last time I used the main page to access the forums, but if there was an active theme to it...well...it would be neat.

[SteveOlicious]

Eng has my submission.

[FlimFlam]

So if I am interested I should submit some pics to Eng, correct? If so I would like to "try out" and will be sending them tonight. Thanks.

edit: btw, I am in central/Richmond. Didnt know if this only includes those in the NN/Beach area that can get together often.

[bensrex]

Since I was directed here, I don't like the idea that "only members of the club can post". I think if someone joins DragVA who enjoys taking nice pictures, they should be able to post them. Maybe have sub-forums within this Picture Forum like... "Nature/Scenery", "Automobiles", "Bikes", "Homes", "Animals"... etc.

[MerF]

Since I was directed here, I don't like the idea that "only members of the club can post". I think if someone joins DragVA who enjoys taking nice pictures, they should be able to post them. Maybe have sub-forums within this Picture Forum like... "Nature/Scenery", "Automobiles", "Bikes", "Homes", "Animals"... etc.
Which brings up a point....Eye Candy will still exist, right? Then the everyday joe thread "look at my car" can still be posted somewhere.

[bensrex]

Yes, I feel that the Eye-Candy should stay for videos, flash art, etc.

[urvtecs2slo]

eye candy will still exist.


flodase-r, yes, just submit your pictures to eng. we need people in your area to take photos as well. this isnt limited to the penn/southside.

[Kim Jong Illin]

hm i dont know if i should try out...

[soulDistortion]

Since I was directed here, I don't like the idea that "only members of the club can post". I think if someone joins DragVA who enjoys taking nice pictures, they should be able to post them. Maybe have sub-forums within this Picture Forum like... "Nature/Scenery", "Automobiles", "Bikes", "Homes", "Animals"... etc.
The entire point of this thing is for quality photographers to take quality pictures of quality cars.

If someone wants to take pictures of random emo-faggy shit, they can just throw that shit up in eye candy. This is a car site, after all.

Allowing only approved members to create threads in the newly-created section is the entire point of having the section to begin with. It's supposed to be quality over quantity. If I wanted to see 50 million threads with shitty pictures in them, I can look in eye candy for that since there are plenty already.

[SteveOlicious]

The entire point of this thing is for quality photographers to take quality pictures of quality cars.

If someone wants to take pictures of random emo-faggy shit, they can just throw that shit up in eye candy. This is a car site, after all.

Allowing only approved members to create threads in the newly-created section is the entire point of having the section to begin with. It's supposed to be quality over quantity. If I wanted to see 50 million threads with shitty pictures in them, I can look in eye candy for that since there are plenty already.

Thank you sir, now what ever happened to my name change?

[Slimsta Jimsta]

what are you getting it changed to?

[soulDistortion]

Thank you sir, now what ever happened to my name change?
cack. send me a pm about it.

[SteveOlicious]

cack. send me a pm about it.
Roger.

[blah]

I think this is an absolutely awesome idea.

Here's my idea on how it should be:
~A seperate forum for the quality photographers with quality cars
~Only people from the 'photo crew' can create new threads
~If some fucktard from the 'photo crew' abuses it, they're out
~Anyone can reply to the threads and ask about the setting, locations, etc...
~If someone wants to be in the 'photo crew' just have them post up some pics in eye-candy, and if they don't suck, let him/her in
~Incorporate in the rules to keep the retarded inside jokes out of the forum
~Let the images be available to download for wallpapers with the DragVa logo on it (like DTMPower)
~If you want your car photographed, PM one of the 'photo crew' and if they can't do it, they'll know someone who has time
~Don't make it a private forum (i.e. let guests be able to view it, but only members can download from it)

This is only going to be sucessful in you put up very specific rules and enforce them. (The later shouldn't be a problem) For some fucking reason, people on this site are fucking uncontrolable when you don't set up rules that cover all of the bases.


This is coming at a perfect time though. We already have quite a few really good photographers (ritz, nothing, Soon2BeStangin, etc...). And there are going to be quite a few cars coming out of this site in the next few months that will give them something to take pictures of. Add that to the rest of the quality cars on here already and the photographers can pretty much choose who they want. I'm with SoulD with the need for quality pics of quality cars. Everyone thinks of this site as a bunch of 16 year old ricers with civics and fart cans, we need to show everyone that we are a maturing board with quality cars and good people. In the last few month, everyone has started to kick it up a few notches car-wise, and this would be a perfect place for them to show them off. (Or you can be like Jay and take three years, whatever) I thing it's pretty badass when I go to the NOVA DragVA meet and 300 cars show up and Drag is regularly mentioned on Bimmerforums, DTMPower, E46fanatics, etc.... (the other forums I go to) I still consider this a local 757 board and it's a trip that it's started to get the reckonition it deserves.

You can call me an idiot if you want, but those are my opinions. :)

[SteveOlicious]

You're so smort

[SteveOlicious]

Everyone seems to have the same opinion, I just ordered lenses for my camera and a couple filters. This is a great time. It will blow up. But it needs to be very strict. Only the PhotoCrew can start threads, hell even post. If someone wants to comment, leave it to PM's. Either or would work I believe.

[sung]

who defines quality?

lolololololololol

[blah]

who defines quality?

lolololololololol
If you want me to tell someone that they or their car sucks, I'll be more than happy to. :D

[urvtecs2slo]

who defines quality?

lolololololololol
eng.

[Kim Jong Illin]

submitted my email to eng. who else has?

[urvtecs2slo]

like eng said, make sure you put photography in the subject, otherwise it gets sent to his junk mail, and he wont look through it to find it.

[MerF]

Only the PhotoCrew can start threads, hell even post.
This is the only thing I disagree with in above few posts.

[urvtecs2slo]

i disagree with nobody being able to post/comment on the pictures. only photocrew starting threads, however, im down with.

[MerF]

i disagree with nobody being able to post/comment on the pictures. only photocrew starting threads, however, im down with.
I'm sorry, I should have clarified...."photo-crew" only starts threads.

Any member may view/post in threads.

Basically, what you said.

[dave22]

I think this is an excellent idea. It's fine if only the designated people can start the threads, but I think it's important to have feedback from everyone in the threads. Within reason. As long as stupid posts are quickly deleted people will learn to take the jackassery to the appropriate forum.

[FlimFlam]

It's going to take me a bit to upload my pics, but I am definitely interested. Please keep me in mind...heh. :D

[SteveOlicious]

In reference to my comment about not being able to post. This is Drag, there are quite a few motor mouths. Maybe we should look into having a few Mods just for the forum, just to keep unwanted "shit" out.

[yournamehere]

In reference to my comment about not being able to post. This is Drag, there are quite a few motor mouths. Maybe we should look into having a few Mods just for the forum, just to keep unwanted "shit" out.
:) that's the plan.

[D.Nick]

so what happens for people like me who want to submit pictures and take more but cant b/c of the simple fact that im in iraq? can i take pics of 7 tons and hummers to prove my abilities?

[soulDistortion]

In reference to my comment about not being able to post. This is Drag, there are quite a few motor mouths. Maybe we should look into having a few Mods just for the forum, just to keep unwanted "shit" out.
Or maybe something like having the pictures and comments occupy seperate threads (with the comment thread viewable/postable only to drag members).

That way, if the comments get too out of hand, they won't detract from the original thread.

The focus will be the pictures, not everything afterwards.

[soulDistortion]

so what happens for people like me who want to submit pictures and take more but cant b/c of the simple fact that im in iraq? can i take pics of 7 tons and hummers to prove my abilities?
If they're quality shots, it couldn't hurt to take some and pass it along to the engster.

Shit, more power to you if you can rock those out.

[D.Nick]

If they're quality shots, it couldn't hurt to take some and pass it along to the engster.

Shit, more power to you if you can rock those out.


alright ill see what i can do..is there a time frame to send in pictures b/c its gonna be atleast another 2 weeks b4 i get my camera sent out here.

[soulDistortion]

alright ill see what i can do..is there a time frame to send in pictures b/c its gonna be atleast another 2 weeks b4 i get my camera sent out here.
You might have to ask Eng on the specifics, but I don't see there being any problem.

[91se-r]

I enjoy looking at the quality pictures from some of the guys on this site. From that perspective, my suggestions for the new forum would be:
1.) The ability to start threads limited to the people chosen to take photos.
2.) The first post in the thread should have some brief info about the photographer, equipment, location and car/owner.
3.) The picture thread should then be locked and a link provded where comments can be posted. That way it is easy to keep track of where the comments go and easier for newbies to bring back old threads. :D This will also limit the number of thread that need to be moderated.

Just some thoughts from the peanut gallery. Thanks.

[SteveOlicious]

Or maybe something like having the pictures and comments occupy seperate threads (with the comment thread viewable/postable only to drag members).

That way, if the comments get too out of hand, they won't detract from the original thread.

The focus will be the pictures, not everything afterwards.
Say word.

[THATS FRESH]

for this sub-photography forum, look at other photo forums online and see how they set it up.

Car thread (car 'photoshoot')
all of dragva can view and *post

Critique thread(ANY type of comments allowed)
dragva can view but only photocrew allowed to post.

etc thread (soon to be stangin for example, flower series, norfolk at night etc)
dragva can view and *post


threads will only have pics taken by people who actually know who to use their camera. like pics of cars that look like some ad for auto trader or ebay shall be kept in eyecandy.

thread titles will actually be the title of the series or project (ex. Norfolk at Night and not "few pics from day", "nice shots of my car". etc

the maximum shots that are posted by the postee should only be 5. so itll be up to the postee, to find the BEST 5 shots of the series and not all 13 of em.

*posting --anyone should be allowed to post/reply/comment(good or bad)/ask questions. but not suggest. the shots were taken by a photographer with his/her own intentions.
no low blows are allowed when posting about the pics. the replies should be your opinion on what you think of the pics or what the photographer was trying to accomplish and not in a sacrcasm way.

of course there are gonna be alot of admirers(sp?). they would post their series in eyecandy and if the moderator sees the photo thread is acceptable, he can move the thread to the Photo forum.

thats all i could think of now. and what i had to go through in school.
gLenn

[THATS FRESH]

.edit.

[cokinut]

my internet has been down a week. So count me in!

[growley]

Guess, the quality of the photographer's pics partly depend on the camera eh (Unless you have a 35mm hehe)? Too bad I don't have a dedicated film scanner :(

[SignfcntOthr]

I like the idea that only "photocrew members" can start threads.

I like the idea that registered users can post in those threads.

I don't like the idea of creating a thread with the pictures, then a link for comments...to me that sounds like the "Featured Ride" section.

I would also suggest a well developed set of rules and strict moderation of them.

I would also suggest that "entry" into the 'photocrew' never be closed, because what if one day someone else figures out how to take good pictures, or someone who can take good pictures registers?

Good luck.

[Cnamz]

I FINALLY got my 300D. Give me a while to get to know it. :)

[urvtecs2slo]

im just hoping eng is actually reviewing photos and following through with this.

[vasponger]

Guess, the quality of the photographer's pics partly depend on the camera eh (Unless you have a 35mm hehe)? Too bad I don't have a dedicated film scanner :(

i miss her :(

[THATS FRESH]

I FINALLY got my 300D. Give me a while to get to know it. :)

you should have waited man... the xt (8.o mp) came out to replace the rebel.
like the 20D replaced the 10D, the xt will replace the rebel.

[00civichatch]

I like the idea that only "photocrew members" can start threads.

I like the idea that registered users can post in those threads.

I don't like the idea of creating a thread with the pictures, then a link for comments...to me that sounds like the "Featured Ride" section.

I would also suggest a well developed set of rules and strict moderation of them.

I would also suggest that "entry" into the 'photocrew' never be closed, because what if one day someone else figures out how to take good pictures, or someone who can take good pictures registers?

Good luck.

yall know that this is going to turn into a popularity contest. i hope this photocrew thing doesnt go to the photographers heads...

anyways :thup: i like that this site is progressing. its a little slow if you ask me.

[ritz]

you should have waited man... the xt (8.o mp) came out to replace the rebel.
like the 20D replaced the 10D, the xt will replace the rebel.

I'm gonna buy the 300D and save the extra 200 and drop it on a decent lens. dpreview has a review of the XT and I glanced at the samples and they are no better than the 300D. Hell maybe it's me, but the samples from the 300d look better than the xt.

[D.Nick]

im just hoping eng is actually reviewing photos and following through with this.

im hoping i could get my camera intime to make my submission...got some trucks out here that i love

[THATS FRESH]

I'm gonna buy the 300D and save the extra 200 and drop it on a decent lens. dpreview has a review of the XT and I glanced at the samples and they are no better than the 300D. Hell maybe it's me, but the samples from the 300d look better than the xt.

funny thing is you are right. i have used and taken shots from the rebel and the 20D and the Rebel produced a better shot when it was printed. if you dont like the gray plastic feel of the rebel, then go and get the 20D, but you are basically getting the same exact camera.


i have the samples if anyone wanted to look at them.

[Cary]

Hey, I'd like to get in on this too.

I'm only in 757 during the summer because of school at VT, but there's cars out here too haha.

I've got samples of my photography if there's going to be a "standard" to be part of the photo crew.

[urvtecs2slo]

go read the announcement in eye candy.

[Cary]

well then, that was simple enough

[SteveOlicious]

My camera is soon to be up forsale.

http://dragva.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1382558#post1382558

[SignfcntOthr]

I'm about to get this janky started.

Unofficially, of course.

[SteveOlicious]

So how is this coming?

Moderators, how are you guys planning on setting this up? Do we have anough people yet? Let us know what's up! Thanks.

[urvtecs2slo]

seems as though there have only been 10 submissions. and sung hates the idea. so. whatever.

[SteveOlicious]

seems as though there have only been 10 submissions. and sung hates the idea. so. whatever.
What doesn't Sung hate?

[urvtecs2slo]

its his site.


and as much as id love for this to happen, i saw this coming.

[gear]

unfortunately I dont have any of my work on this computer to sumbit. as soon as i can get to my stuff (back at my moms) I will send some.

[ritz]

No need too Brad. Sung obviously doesn't like the idea and it's his site, so whatever.

I'm still up to taking pics and what not we'll just have to post them up in eye-candy. :(

[gear]

i guess thats okay for now *shrug*

[THATS FRESH]

No need too Brad. Sung obviously doesn't like the idea and it's his site, so whatever.

I'm still up to taking pics and what not we'll just have to post them up in eye-candy. :(

eye candy it is.

[eng]

Sung obviously doesn't like the idea and it's his site, so whatever. You guys sure gave up easy :o

[ritz]

I'm definitely still up for it, but Leigh made it sound like it was a lost cause.

If there is still a chance then I am definitely in and I'm sure I speak for everyone else.

[eng]

If enough people want to do it then it will get done. Perhaps not exactly as planned, but something will get worked out.

[SteveOlicious]

I'm definitely still up for it, but Leigh made it sound like it was a lost cause.

If there is still a chance then I am definitely in and I'm sure I speak for everyone else.
Preach it

[urvtecs2slo]

i wasnt trying to make it sound like a lost cause. but my idea was lost from the get-go. and whats left is nothing like i had thought out. so...yeah.

[nickyroo]

im interested in having some quality pictures taken of my family's office facility, like some night shots or something. which one of yall could do that and what would yall charge me?

it's in newport news about 6 minutes across the HRBT

[D.Nick]

seems as though there have only been 10 submissions. and sung hates the idea. so. whatever.


I submitted but i guess pm wasnt good enough...i dont have much of a choice on what i do out here in the desert.

[gear]

im interested in having some quality pictures taken of my family's office facility, like some night shots or something. which one of yall could do that and what would yall charge me?

it's in newport news about 6 minutes across the HRBT

im interested... hit me up if you want. well try and work out the details...

[FlimFlam]

I submitted my janke a few days ago. Am I supposed to do anything else or just sit and wait?

[urvtecs2slo]

just sit and wait.

[nickyroo]

still looking for a capable photographer to do a shoot of our office building for me.

[ritz]

I'd do it Nick, but I don't have a camera right now.

[urvtecs2slo]

still looking for a capable photographer to do a shoot of our office building for me.
check pms. my bad.

[FlimFlam]

.

wordly.

[THATS FRESH]

I'd do it Nick, but I don't have a camera right now.

sold it?

[urvtecs2slo]

yeah, he sold it to shawn on here.

[FlimFlam]

I just recieved a Digital Rebel, ready to get busy.

[THATS FRESH]

now buy some CF ultra cards, tripod, uv filter, at least a 70-300mm lens. those will at least optimize the use of the rebel.

most common mistake when changing the lens on SLR's, is that people dont change the lens with the body facing down, which doesnt allow any dust to enter into the body.

[SteveOlicious]

So you want dust?

...

[nothing.]

It looks like I can only be a cheer leader for this idea. I sold my camera, can't afford what I want now that I've paid for school and only work part time, and should be leaving very soon.

Sorry guys, but I still think this is a very good idea.

[THATS FRESH]

people dont change the lens with the body facing down, which doesnt allow any dust to enter into the body.

...when changing your lens on your slr, "change the lens with the body facing down, which doesnt allow any dust to enter into the body, and onto the processor"

[SteveOlicious]

...when changing your lens on your slr, "change the lens with the body facing down, which doesnt allow any dust to enter into the body, and onto the processor"
That makes more sense.

[THATS FRESH]

ha. speaking of which, i had a chance to play with the xt today. "same ol camera"

[ritz]

I'm thinking about getting it.

Check this out.

A couple XT shots.
Shot at ISO 1600 (http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos350d_preview/img_3338.jpg)

Full size version here (HUGE) (http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos350d_preview/originals/img_3338.jpg)

Now 20D.
20D shot ISO 1600 (http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos20d_samples/img_2169.jpg)

Full size version (http://img2.dpreview.com/gallery/canoneos20d_samples/originals/img_2169.jpg)

IMO the XT shot looks a little cleaner and since it has a 8MP CMOS sensor vs. the 300D's 6MP sensor I might drop the extra money and go with the XT (over the 300D). Everything I've read about it has been good and It's still over $500 less than a 20D.

[ritz]

Summary of changes (compared to the EOS 300D / Digital Rebel)

* Eight megapixel CMOS sensor (not same as EOS 20D)
* Second generation CMOS (same generation as rest of current range)
* DIGIC II image processor (better image quality, faster processing, less power consumption)
* Instant power-on time, faster shutter release, shorter blackout time
* Continuous shooting speed increased (3.0 fps vs. 2.5 fps)
* Buffer increased (14 JPEG frames vs. 4 JPEG frames)
* Image processing time decreased (thanks to DIGIC II)
* Compact Flash write speed increased
* Smaller body (15 x 5 x 8 mm smaller)
* Lighter weight (17% lighter including battery)
* Matte plastic finish, standard body color to be black, sliver will also be available
* Re-designed control layout (drive mode button, new metering mode & AF buttons)
* Metal mode dial
* Harder rubber finish on hand grip (doesn't feel much like rubber)
* Smaller and lighter NB-2LH battery (same as PowerShot S60 / S70) which is 48% lighter
* Rear LCD panel changed
* Flash pop-up slightly higher (just 5 mm)
* E-TTL II flash
* Nine custom functions
o Customizable SET button
o Control noise reduction
o Flash sync speed in Av mode
o Shutter button / AE button
o AF-assist beam control
o Selectable 0.3 or 0.5 EV exposure steps
o Mirror lock-up
o E-TTL II mode
o Flash shutter curtain sync (1st or 2nd)
* Selectable Metering mode
* Selectable AF mode
* Flash exposure compensation
* Independently selectable color space
* Two preset and three custom image parameter sets, B&W mode (same as EOS 20D)
* White balance fine tuning and bracketing (improved)
* Proper RAW+JPEG (one RAW, one JPEG; although only Large/Fine)
* Record review histogram via Info button
* Play Jump mode by shot date, 10 or 100 images
* USB 2.0 Hi-Speed connection
* New BG-E3 battery grip (portrait controls), takes two NB-2LH or six AA batteries
* Two additional menu languages added; Korean and Russian
* Subtly re-designed kit lens now named the EF-S 18 - 55 mm II (still no USM)
* Software now includes ZoomBrowser, DPP and EOS Capture
* Lower initial list price

[THATS FRESH]

any of yall want to work with me? keep in mind, im in the world of point and shoot cameras. but we just lost two part-timers. inquire within.

gLenn

[SteveOlicious]

any of yall want to work with me? keep in mind, im in the world of point and shoot cameras. but we just lost two part-timers. inquire within.

gLenn

If you were in NN I would

[THATS FRESH]

we are looking for a part timer. if that bapgeon job doesnt fill your schedule, holla at me Mr Ritz.

[ritz]

No problem G.

[urvtecs2slo]

eng?

[urvtecs2slo]

i refuse the let this die.

[SteveOlicious]

Keep on keepin' on guys. I'm about to buy a new Nikon SLR and start on a Business Admin degree with a minor in Photography, so I would like to get this going so I would have easy knowledge of subjects willing to be shot.

[ritz]

Why in the motherfuck are you buying a Nikon. I must've bumped my head when I was willing too.

[SteveOlicious]

Why in the motherfuck are you buying a Nikon. I must've bumped my head when I was willing too.

Why not?

[ritz]

Canon > Nikon.

[urvtecs2slo]

i refuse the let this die.
.

[THATS FRESH]

there are alot of pros to the Nikon SLR. BUT overall the Canon is the one to go with.

[SteveOlicious]

And you guys know I'm not talking Digital, right?

[urvtecs2slo]

And you guys know I'm not talking Digital, right?
yes, and id still go with a canon 35mm over a nikon. i own a rebel Ti and its a great camera. much nicer than any nikon ive ever used. and picture quality, even with the kit lense, is excellent.

[SteveOlicious]

Word Leigh, I'm still looking. I know the lenses are a little less expensive on the Canon side. I still have to save up the money, once I save the money I will decide. Leigh, you or Joe should come with me and help me decide once I'm ready to by one.

[ritz]

You guys should come with me too. That way when I pull my XT out the box you guys will already be there to taste my nuts.



<3

[SteveOlicious]

You guys should come with me too. That way when I pull my XT out the box you guys will already be there to taste my nuts.



<3

***** if I cared enough, I could out do you and buy $153,000 worth of cameras. But I won't make you cry.

[ritz]

Oh no you didn't. Ok I'll stop let's not make eng mad. :)

[THATS FRESH]

any canon slr in my opinion will always win over the nikon DSLR or SLR.

ill make all of you cry. *bc when i take home the XT this weekend, ill put all cameras to shame.

[chad]

oh god

[D.Nick]

my dick is bigger than yours

[ritz]

oh god

What's that suppose to mean?

[FlimFlam]

Not to anger the Gods of DragVa, but why hasnt a decision been made? There are obviously enough people that are interested and I am assuming we all submitted pics like we were told. Whats the hang up?

urvtecs2slo, like you said previously, if you are willing to make your own dedicated site I would be willing to donate to the cause. I have no place to post my pics other then crappy forums after compressing them to shit via photobucket or some shit. Just saying, if this isn't going to happen via DragVa I'm sure others that want to see it happen will help out, me included.

[eng]

Whats the hang up? There wasn't all that many submissions. So what I'm going to do is let the people that submitted choose. If you sent me your pictures look for a email from me in the next day or two with the details.

[FlimFlam]

Cool man. Twas all I was asking.

[SteveOlicious]

<twiddling thumbs>

[growley]

My Nikon N65 35 mil is working awesome for me, although I have heard of more people switching to canon or using canon outfits.

[ShizZits]

<twiddling thumbs>
Indeed. Waiting sucks.

[chad]

This shit's retarded, if you want to take pictures, take pictures. you dont need a "photo crew" ... there are dozens of people on here that would love to shoot pictures of your car or mom for free and for fun. Then, you can post them in eye candy. woo hoo.

[yournamehere]

any canon slr in my opinion will always win over the nikon DSLR or SLR.

ill make all of you cry. *bc when i take home the XT this weekend, ill put all cameras to shame.
hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhah. I hope you mean "putting to shame" in a sense that you will have just waste $1k on a glorified rebel that takes the same looking pictures as a normal rebel that I paid $250 less for.

[ritz]

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhah. I hope you mean "putting to shame" in a sense that you will have just waste $1k on a glorified rebel that takes the same looking pictures as a normal rebel that I paid $250 less for.

Yeah or not. Refer to my ISO 1600 shots.

Now go take one with your 300D. Your shit won't be that crisp. Sorry.

[ritz]

Here you go chief. You can start here.

http://www.dragva.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1402099&postcount=131

Then continue here.

http://www.dragva.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1402123&postcount=132

Trust me. I've done my research because I wasn't down for paying $300 more on a camera that's the same at it's counterpart, but there are differences. Yes some shots may look the same, but hell that can be said for anything. I've seen shots from my G6 that look better than a 300D and shots from a 300D that look better than a 20D, but if you use each camera to it's full potential then the XT will come out on top.

[ritz]

Another thing is this. Canon wouldn't release another camera in it's rebel line that's equal the one the one they already have. They'd lose money because people would realize "Hey this camera that I paid $1K for takes pictures just like the camera my friend paid $700 for." Like I said there isn't going to be a huge difference. You have to think of price. They aren't going to make the XT blow the 300D completely out of the water for only $300 more. That's what the 20D is for then you have the 1D MkII.

I'm not trying to start an argument I'm just trying to speak facts. Canon would not release a camera that isn't going to be better than the previous model that it's replacing. If that happened then within minutes word would be spread across the internet and probably thousands of potential XT buyers would say "Hey I'm gonna save my money by not buying an XT and just get a 300D", so Canon would lose money by having a brand new camera that isn't selling worth a shit.

Just my 2 pennies.

[chad]

2 pennies ? that shits like $3.75 worth ... You would think someone crapped in your cherios the way you made 3 consecutive posts over a comment about a damn camera. This shit is stupid retarded out of hand.

A) fuck the photocrew idea, it was destroyed when one person took over and bastardized the whole concept. That shit was supposed to be for FUN, and let people show off their tallent (or lack of) and give people who dont have 1,000 dollar cameras to get decent pictures of their car. Having to "Audition" is a crock of horse dung. Who's to say the "jugdes" eye is worth making the decision. If you want to take pictures of other people's car, do it ! and as quoted by sung in this thread "Who defines quality" ?

B) Put up or shut up, there are certain people on here that run the fucking mouth and talk so much shit on how "Im gonna make you cry" or "Your white ballance is off" or this, that, and the other is wrong ... yet have nothing posted. A degree is nothing more than a piece of paper that says you had the diciplin to sit in on 2-4 years of extra school, It does not mean your special or have talent exceeding those of others!
The time has come ... put up, or shut up.

[Mr. Rooney]

Having to "Audition" is a crock of horse dung. Who's to say the "jugdes" eye is worth making the decision. If you want to take pictures of other people's car, do it ! and as quoted by sung in this thread "Who defines quality" ?
i agree. who thinks their shit dont stink?

[SteveOlicious]

2 pennies ? that shits like $3.75 worth ... You would think someone crapped in your cherios the way you made 3 consecutive posts over a comment about a damn camera. This shit is stupid retarded out of hand.

A) fuck the photocrew idea, it was destroyed when one person took over and bastardized the whole concept. That shit was supposed to be for FUN, and let people show off their tallent (or lack of) and give people who dont have 1,000 dollar cameras to get decent pictures of their car. Having to "Audition" is a crock of horse dung. Who's to say the "jugdes" eye is worth making the decision. If you want to take pictures of other people's car, do it ! and as quoted by sung in this thread "Who defines quality" ?

B) Put up or shut up, there are certain people on here that run the fucking mouth and talk so much shit on how "Im gonna make you cry" or "Your white ballance is off" or this, that, and the other is wrong ... yet have nothing posted. A degree is nothing more than a piece of paper that says you had the diciplin to sit in on 2-4 years of extra school, It does not mean your special or have talent exceeding those of others!
The time has come ... put up, or shut up.


I guess you are refering to me with the degree thing? I believe I have been the only one to say that. I'm getting a business degree with a minor in Photography. I don't say much about people's photo's. I guess you should boycott voting for the mother fucking President then, eh? Why should any one have the right to choose the leader of our country? If your pics suck, they suck. A lot of it was constructive critism until the majority of you guys got fucking butthurt.

[SteveOlicious]

i agree. who thinks their shit dont stink?

I need some I <3 head stickers. I'll hit you up on those here shortly if you're still cutting them.

[chad]

I guess you are refering to me with the degree thing? I believe I have been the only one to say that. I'm getting a business degree with a minor in Photography. I don't say much about people's photo's. I guess you should boycott voting for the mother fucking President then, eh? Why should any one have the right to choose the leader of our country? If your pics suck, they suck. A lot of it was constructive critism until the majority of you guys got fucking butthurt.
had nothing to do with you.

[SteveOlicious]

had nothing to do with you.
Then don't pay attention to me <3

[THATS FRESH]

i know you aint talking bout me...

just remember, i aint the only one who "criticized" a photo. fuck, most of the time they learned something. who knew about white balance and how it really determines the quality of the picture. why not learn. itd be shit if you werent trying to learn anything else in your life.

back on page 10 when joe and company where talking bout who has what camera at home etc, i put my comment in there. i hope no one took me seriously. "ill make you all cry", yeah i was talking shit foreals,,, [roll the eyes]

a degree IS more than a piece of paper for those who did graduate from something. if it took someone 2 or 4 years or even their whole lifetime to walk across a stage, i def wouldnt give em shit,,,id congrat them. someone please quote me on when i said i was special or that i have more talent that exceeds anyone?

the only way this shit would get out of hand is when people contribute to it in a and b fashion. im guesing those would be your two cents?

And yeah you are right, there is noone on here TO determine what are the best pics. But people do have an eye for the camera and understand the concept of photography and when they comment on other peoples photos, those people should take note on how they could make their pics better.

And with that degree, i did learn something called typography. 90% of the people out there just type away hit return and end it with a period. Little do they know they have to understand the language of characters and their relation to the space around it. So when someone does show me some work and they dont get 100% positive comments, they arent supposed to cry and call themselves anti-photo or anti design nazi. Only those who been in critiques know that more than words are thrown at your work.

Aint no damn time in my book or no one elses to put up or shut up. But it was worth a try to get something going on with the people who had cameras and understood photography.

[SteveOlicious]

But I will put up even though I don't talk about photos much. I shoot with a good ol' Canon Powershot A95 point & shoot camera. It cost me $278.17 shipped.

http://files.bighosting.net/kw18258.jpg
http://files.bighosting.net/vr18260.jpg

[eng]

Having to "Audition" is a crock of horse dung. Who's to say the "jugdes" eye is worth making the decision. If you want to take pictures of other people's car, do it ! and as quoted by sung in this thread "Who defines quality" ? Whoever sent me pictures defines what is good. They're voting among themselves.

If someone want to take pictures of other peoples cars, no one is stopping them. I was under the impression this would be to allow people to have pictures of their car taken and at least have some idea that there is some standard the people taking the pictures are following. Also so people who are trying to get better might learn some new stuff.

This is just one big experiment in my mind anyway, maybe it works maybe it doesn't. Still waiting on a few people to vote, we'll find out if this works or not here shortly :D

[SteveOlicious]

Whoever sent me pictures defines what is good. They're voting among themselves.

If someone want to take pictures of other peoples cars, no one is stopping them. I was under the impression this would be to allow people to have pictures of their car taken and at least have some idea that there is some standard the people taking the pictures are following. Also so people who are trying to get better might learn some new stuff.

This is just one big experiment in my mind anyway, maybe it works maybe it doesn't. Still waiting on a few people to vote, we'll find out if this works or not here shortly :D
I was next to you on Victory the other morning.

[ritz]

.

[urvtecs2slo]

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhah. I hope you mean "putting to shame" in a sense that you will have just waste $1k on a glorified rebel that takes the same looking pictures as a normal rebel that I paid $250 less for.
fucking idiot.

[ritz]

Yeah I fucking hate that guy. I've seen G6 shots better than some of his 300D shots.

Fuck him.

[THATS FRESH]

Yeah I fucking hate that guy. I've seen G6 shots better than some of his 300D shots.

Fuck him.


lol. an idiot to think that its a waste of money to get the xt over the rebel at this point.

[SteveOlicious]

Oh my.

[urvtecs2slo]

lol. an idiot to think that its a waste of money to get the xt over the rebel at this point.
yeah seriously. the xt is probably the sickest camera to have come out of any company in like, ever. im buying 2.

[THATS FRESH]

but if you only had 600 bucks, the rebel will do you just fine.

[urvtecs2slo]

i hope youre referring to someone else being poor when you said that.

[THATS FRESH]

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahhah. I hope you mean "putting to shame" in a sense that you will have just waste $1k on a glorified rebel that takes the same looking pictures as a normal rebel that I paid $250 less for.

if the person (in the market) only had $750 to spend on the camera then they would do just fine with the rebel without having to spend the extra $250 for the xt to get great shots.

[SteveOlicious]

Why would one go XT over the original DRebel?

[chad]

Why would one go XT over the original DRebel?
Cause he is photography graphic designer god :rolleyes:

[SteveOlicious]

Oh, and by the way, on my lunch break I went and held the XT. I knew it was smaller but damn. I think I'll stick with buying a black DRebel 6.3MP, and use the money towards Access. and the like. DRebels accept the Microdrives right? I found some great prices (I assume) on them @ www.upgradenation.com.

[THATS FRESH]

Cause he is photography graphic designer god :rolleyes:

it came out your mouth.
;)

[ritz]

I'm about to buy a 300d. I REALLY need to feel an XT with a battery grip. Maybe that will change my mind because after feeling one again I just don't think it will fit right in my hands.

Plus I can save $$. Glenn can you hook the XT up with a battery grip at your work? Just long enough for me to feel the difference?

[THATS FRESH]

joe, we have an Open Item Rebel selling for $599 (body and lens with cover only).
yeah the smaller xt does make a tight fit where your fingers lay between the shutter release and the lens.

but nah, we dont sell the battery grip in stores.

[cokinut]

There wasn't all that many submissions. So what I'm going to do is let the people that submitted choose. If you sent me your pictures look for a email from me in the next day or two with the details.

the .zip file or attachment didn't work for me otherwise i would submitted something.

[eng]

Well I think maybe 75% of the people have voted. Not really sure how long to give the people who haven't sent me anything back. One more week or have they been given enough time?

[ritz]

I think they've been given enough time.

[ShizZits]

ditto.

[SteveOlicious]

Yea what's up with it?

[FlimFlam]

I think they've been given enough time.

.

[eng]

An email has been sent to people that got enough votes. Here's the breakdown for anyone that cares, not that the numbers will make any sense.
01|1111111
02|222
02|3
04|4
05|5555
06|6666666
07|77777
08|8
09|99
10|0000
11|11111
12|22222222 I took 4 votes as the cut off. 8 people voted out of the 12 submissions.

[ritz]

Go ritz its your birthday.

[SteveOlicious]

:D

[Soon2BeStangin]

Nice, let me know when we'll have a meeting :)

[ritz]

Did you email him?

[Soon2BeStangin]

Did you email him?
Yea, just waitin to find out when :) I'm trying to get a 300D for graduation and hopefully I'll be able to :D

[THATS FRESH]

damn, i didnt get picked.

[urvtecs2slo]

what # were you?

[FlimFlam]

I win...I win.

[ritz]

You still lose at life.

<3

[urvtecs2slo]

i lost at remembering when the cnu show was.

[SteveOlicious]

i lost at remembering when the cnu show was.
Joe has your PhotoShop

[urvtecs2slo]

thanks man. yeah, i was sick-ish this morning and totally woke up at 2. therefor, not quite making it out there to the show.

[SteveOlicious]

thanks man. yeah, i was sick-ish this morning and totally woke up at 2. therefor, not quite making it out there to the show.

I have about 25 pics to put up out of ~70 tonight when I get home. It wasn't too bad, nothing worth stressing because you missed it. I got my 50mm f1.8 today before the show, so it was fun.

[urvtecs2slo]

get on aim.

[SteveOlicious]

I'm at work player.

[urvtecs2slo]

get on aim express.

[SteveOlicious]

Tags for the new ad own my life right now, haha.

[FlimFlam]

I'm not going to take the time to make a seperate thread about this...

I need suggestions on a good, solid, heavy, tripod. The one I've been useing is too lightweight and it wobbles and moves every fucking time I try to snap a shot off. I took 200+ night pictures the other night and not a fucking single one of them came out worth posting because everything has a blurred edge or double image.

If anyone has found one they really like just shoot me the model number and where you bought it and possibly the price if you remember, I'd appreciate it.

[nothing.]

I'm not going to take the time to make a seperate thread about this...

I need suggestions on a good, solid, heavy, tripod. The one I've been useing is too lightweight and it wobbles and moves every fucking time I try to snap a shot off. I took 200+ night pictures the other night and not a fucking single one of them came out worth posting because everything has a blurred edge or double image.

If anyone has found one they really like just shoot me the model number and where you bought it and possibly the price if you remember, I'd appreciate it.
Why not use the built in timer or get a remote?

I know that's to easy but I never liked having to carry a heavy tripod around. My lightweight tripod + remote always worked perfect.

[SteveOlicious]

Bogen?

[THATS FRESH]

how tall do you need it?

[SteveOlicious]

Carbon one, Gitzo. Those are 2 other companies.

[SteveOlicious]

http://www.bogenimaging.us/ - manfrotto and gitzo are on there

[growley]

Same thing with everything in life goes with tripods. You get what you pay for.

[ritz]

My parents paid $50 for a tripod for my birthday last year. I like it but overtime it's starting to work it's way lose.

I just use my built in timer now and it works a lot better than dropping $150+ on a tripod. Atleast for right now.

[THATS FRESH]

i got a $100 dollar tripod for 10 bucks. 3 way fluid panhead, weighted center, anodized aluminum, 2lbs.

www.boshweb.com

[FlimFlam]

I'm thinking I need to start being more liberal with my timer. I have hated using it in the past, but it seems the most logical way.

I am using a Digital Rebel btw. Thanks for everyone's input.

[ritz]

Yeah Kevin try that out. I never used my built in timer on any of the cameras I had, but I noticed that it posed a problem when I was shooting at say ~1 second shutter because by the time I got my hand off the picture snapped off and looked like crap.

All of the shots in "Shawn's SRT-4" thread were taken using my timer.

[FlimFlam]

Since I dont have the camera infront of me...is there a way to set the amount of time for the timer? Like bring it down to 2-3 seconds instead of whatever the default 10-15seconds is? It would be uber annoying if I had to wait for the long ass timer each time. Camera is stuck at work, so lend a brotha a hand.

[urvtecs2slo]

no. 10 seconds is what you get.

[FlimFlam]

well. that blows.

[urvtecs2slo]

get a remote. theyre cheap.

[FlimFlam]

I shall look into one.