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The Wok
02-13-2003, 12:23 PM
What is everyone planning to do with their cars?
Here's mine:
Body:
- 94 Lip
- carbon fiber hood
- body painted Estoril Blue (BMW M3)
- 1994+ MR2 taillights
- Driving Lights (done)
Interior:
- Sparco Ring steering wheel
- Sparco Tecno shift knob
- 2 Sparco Torino racing seats
- A-Pillar gauges (3 pods)
- Aftermarket tach (if I find a small one, none of those huge ricer 5" ones.)
- 10 CD changer (done)
Suspension:
- KYB AGX front shocks (done)
- KYB AGX rear shocks
- Eibach springs
- 17" Rota Attacks (Steel Grey)
- TRD front/rear strut-tower braces
- new urethane bushings
Engine:
- HKS intake
- HKS exhaust
This will be an autox car and daily driver. Once I graduate and build some credit I'll be getting a 1994 Turbo. :]
engine:
J-spec KLZE engine swap
test pipe
Direct port nitrous
Body:
FX designs front lip
Shoguns sides
FX rear triangles
Dark blue paint
White pearl
Chameleon flames
suspension:
Done
Interior:
Blue and white leather
Dark blue carpet
dark blue center consol
Custom nitrous system setup in back.
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 01:05 PM
tranny
headwork
pistons
rods
crankshaft
big ass turbo
and bigger injectors like 770cc instead of my 550cc
and :barf: NOZ
vmspionage
02-13-2003, 01:19 PM
If I can't sell mine, it'll probably go something like this:
Engine:
Rebuilt LS6
Lingenfelter 520hp supercharger pkg
Transmission:
TransGo Shift Kit
3200 Stall
Wheels:
BBS LM Wheels 18x10 front, 19x12 rear
Bling:
Lingenfelter hood
Tigershark Front/Rear Fascia
Limo tint
Other Stuff:
Sparco seats w/5pt harness
1TZ JENN
02-13-2003, 01:21 PM
i want a new car!.. :(
Victum
02-13-2003, 01:22 PM
at least 11 seconds..
'90Formula350
02-13-2003, 01:44 PM
Hmmmm ... thats a good question ... I had plans for a small block 400 in my 3rd Gen .... but ... I now have 2 other options available to me ... a Grand National 3.8 Turbo V6 or I was thinking about just buying the LT1 from the old man down the street that got rear ended a month ago ... I dont know ... I keep flipping back and forth back and forth ... Ive been saving and saving ... and just about got 6500 to play with ... but not sure on what to do ...
as far as the transmission ...
still keeping a 700 R4
puttin in a 3400 RPM Stall
and Ford 9" Rear end with a spool :)
If I go for the LT1 then I will probally have a little bit of whine comming from under the hood ... I need in puts on what yall think ... Cause right now im thinking GN
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 01:48 PM
3.8t :D i seen those motors turn low times with just boltons
go look here for info http://www.gnttype.org/
my friend with a supercharged firehawk is thinking about putting in the lingenflter kit into his car. Its already bad ass can't wait to see it after that.
Me I am in the 13's now, not bad for a probe right?? But I want to be low 12's by the end of the summer.
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 01:52 PM
u have timeslips or video of 13's what do u have in it i have seen turbo probes run 13's:confused:
Hotshot headers
full cat back exhaust system
CAI
short throw shifter
stage 1 clutchmasters
9lb flywheel
port and polished intake manifold
port and polished throttle body
And alot of nitrous lol
1TZ JENN
02-13-2003, 01:56 PM
ut oh hes got nawzzzzz... jus playin daniel
oh yeah and its a GT not a 4 cyn.
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 01:58 PM
damn i didnt think that motor took to nitrous to well be carefull u got any headwork done injectors hows ur fuel situation
i got that 4cyl probes are slow as shit
yeah the KL03 does good with nitrous. At the moment it has stock internals, and stock injectors. All we be changed shortly. I am not playing with the nitrous for a while. But N/A its mid 14's
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 02:07 PM
really i race a v6 mx6 and he sprayed a 60 or 75 shot he had zex kit w/ wot switch and i got him by like 8 cars and i was maybe running 13's at the time
there is no way that he could but sprayin a 60-75 shot then. considering that the KL03 is a mod 15 sec. car stock, and he was spraying (lets say stock) would put him mid to low 14 range, and you got him by like 8 cars?? I think i will have to call BS on that one.
And what kind of eclipse??
Woodrow
02-13-2003, 03:20 PM
Ok so far in my Cobra i have a K&N filter, Steeda shifter, Mac o/r H pipe, magnaflow mufflers, and 4.30 gears. Times in my sig are with the stock 3.27 gears. New times in March.
Upcoming mods are;
Drag Radials
Steeda timing adjuster
NX 35-150 kit
SSR Ported intake w/ shortened runners
Forged internals ( so i can run 150-200 shot)
C&L maf
Longtube Headers
SFC's
LCA's
Drag shocks/struts/springs
2000 Z28 with Fiancee's approval(it's hers too);
3.73 gears
headers
catback
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 05:33 PM
well there were alot of people watching the guys dad drives a turbo xrt4i or somthin like that it was out at wendsor so u can cal bs all u want but like 80 people were watchin i dont know what else he has but i do know he spraid because his dad told me he did
97 gst all i had a the time was intake, exhaust, and a boost controler
Twelvz
02-13-2003, 05:46 PM
beat everyone in central VA ;)
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 05:49 PM
:confused:
FlimFlam
02-13-2003, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by onesloweclipse
well there were alot of people watching the guys dad drives a turbo xrt4i or somthin like that it was out at wendsor so u can cal bs all u want but like 80 people were watchin i dont know what else he has but i do know he spraid because his dad told me he did
May I present the product of Virginia schools...:D
Just playing with ya...:beer:
-Kevin
onesloweclipse
02-13-2003, 08:04 PM
no ur rite i did got too public skool in va bech virgina
FlimFlam
02-13-2003, 08:16 PM
Anyways...
My 88 GT will probably be wrecked or sold before i actually do anything to it...I have a 351w to be built...but it will never happen.
My 85 XR will sit in the driveway until it rots, being driven about once every month...during that drive i will find some way to get several tickets as normal. I will always be planning on mods, but they will never get done.
My 93 SHO, my dad will finally pay me for it, and take it....which is fine with me. Tranny is about to go and the motor has 225k miles with 15k on this oil change...take it!
My 72 TR6 will take up half of my garage until it finally actually turns into one big pile of rust.
My 72 510 will be my new obsession. I will dump every penny i earn into it only to be disappointed with it never running right and being slow. I will still keep pouring money into it, cause thats what "we people" do, right? To no avail, it will take every dime and kill it and leave me with another car to sit in my driveway.
Kevin - the glass is half empty...
Immediate future:
11.0:1 306 w/custom cam, and a UPR Pro Series rear suspension kit, by then I'll probably be forced to get a roll bar...my goal is mid 11's naturally aspirated on drag radials
Long term:
8.0:1 357 w/custom cam, TFS R heads, TFS 351 intake, and a nice PT76 sitting on the side of the motor...my ultimate goal is to run mid 9's @ 145 mph on drag radials
FlimFlam
02-14-2003, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by FlodaXR4
My 85 XR will sit in the driveway until it rots, being driven about once every month...during that drive i will find some way to get several tickets as normal. I will always be planning on mods, but they will never get done.
AHHHH..its already started!!! I went out to drive it today and the battery was dead. Get the car jumped and find out that my left front was flat (hard to see cause its parked in grass)...AHHH. The rotting process has started!
Kevin - fortune teller
DLB1994
02-14-2003, 02:18 PM
400whp but i got every thing to get i just need to dyno tune it :D
1/4mile time come after
Josepi
02-14-2003, 03:22 PM
Microtech LT8 EMS
then...
T04S turbo and everything it needs (fuel wise)
HKS divided manifold
Tial/HKS/Turbosmart 45mm WG
3" DP/MP split into 80mm dual CB (I don't care about the make as long as the CB is stainless packed with stainless...rotaries will melt fiberglass in no time)
FMIC of some flavor
Koyo/Fluidyne rad
Stock exterior...I might change the rims...
Suspension wise:
GC coilovers wrapped around KYB AGX s/s.
Susp Tech F/R sways
Sticky tires
DTSS (install new bushings which make the rear handling more predictable...)
Pillow ball camber plates F/R
Thats about it...should net a 11 sec car...I'm aiming for 350-400rwhp.
gtracer2b
02-16-2003, 09:09 PM
1994 Honda Accord Coupe
Done:
Engine:
JDM H22a swap by Wallace Automotive
Engine Ordered from Honda Motors Online
AEM Cold Air Intake
Greddy Stainless 4-2-1 Header
3" Hi-flo Cat
Greddy Mandrel Bent Cat Back Exhaust
Painted Engine Valve Cover
Suspension:
Koni Yellow Fully Adjustable Struts with
Adjustable Spring Perches
Eibach Pro-kit 1.5" Racing Springs
Wheels:
17" O.Z. Racing Crono Evolution
205-45-17 Yokohama Parada Spec-II
Exterior:
Skyline R33 Front Bumper
Wings West W-typ Sides
Xenon Rear Lip
VIS Turbo Vented Carbon Fiber Hood
03 Corvette Blue Paint by English Body Works
TYC Gen-2 Taillights
APC Clear Corners
APC Clear Bumper Lenses
20% Platinum Plus Tint
Interior:
Momo Knob
Momo Boot
Painted Dash Treatment
Compustar Alarm (Bout Damn Time)
To Be Done:
Full Engine Porting And Polishing
T3/T3 Turbo Kit w/ FMIC
Urethane Engine Mount Inserts
Knock Sensor
Performance Axles
Buddyclub Sides and Rear
Paint Sides and Rear and Fix Front
19" Konig Prophets in Opal Finish
(Nobody Better Copy Me on Those)
CD/MP3 Player
New Speakers
JDM Headlights and Corners
Black Carpet
Black Sparco Torinos
Custom Vinyl Dash Treatment
Spoon Computer Upgrade
Apex'i V-AFC
fatboyee
02-16-2003, 09:23 PM
immediate goals: quickest on the board.
o, nm, that's already accomplished.
next:
for the 89:
t3/04
fmic
clutch (within a months time)
8.8 rear
4.10 gears
ported head n intakes
rr cam
3" xhaust
{blow tranny... rebuild}
all i want from this biznitch is 300ponies. then spray it :D
the 85:
cage
new NAAAAS kit
tune for deep 10s
and i'll b done :D
Woodrow
02-16-2003, 09:24 PM
ROFLMAOPIMP@ that saying Mo. I forgot all about it.
fatboyee
02-16-2003, 09:32 PM
man, phil gets to workin and i can't even tell what the hell he's talkin about. break it down for me ther bud lol
I dont know, I would have to say some of these stang guys are pretty quick.
fatboyee
02-16-2003, 11:04 PM
shhhh loco... don't let out the secrets
I've got the slowest stang on this board.
Shit! I forgot I put my ET in my sig! :stupid:
FlimFlam
02-17-2003, 12:53 AM
Back off Nic..thats my title!!!
Kevin - im not joking sadly
HighPSI TSi Guy
02-17-2003, 03:10 AM
my plans for my car are not to break it anymore..
yeah I meen, ummmm....... they are slow, and have some weird windshield washer fluid
Woodrow
02-17-2003, 11:16 AM
Mo. I am talking about your quote about the peacock shit.
I think I am the slowest stang for now.
Dublocivic
02-18-2003, 11:23 AM
93 civic EG 9's with tags and registration.
FlimFlam
02-18-2003, 11:27 AM
Whats gona power that EG Dublocivic?
Kevin - i can make it go 9's...mwahahaha
Oredering my pistons early next month, now just need to decide who's doing the cam for me. I'm leaning towards FTI.
FlimFlam
02-18-2003, 11:53 AM
FWIW...Lunatti has very good customer service from what i've dealt with. Sometimes that makes a big difference with my money going to certain people.
-Kevin
Dublocivic
02-18-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by FlodaXR4
Whats gona power that EG Dublocivic?
Kevin - i can make it go 9's...mwahahaha
B16A with a Precision Turbo the GN guys call the "Cranksnaper"
All the rest that I could babble off probably wont make any sense if you are not a Honda guy.
BlownPony
02-18-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Dublocivic
B16A with a Precision Turbo the GN guys call the "Cranksnaper"
All the rest that I could babble off probably wont make any sense if you are not a Honda guy.
When is this going to be done?
Dublocivic
02-18-2003, 03:17 PM
Hey Brandon :)
I am sending the block off for the installation of the nodular iron sleeves next week.
I am also having Wiseco pistons and steel h-beam forged rods installed (I would install it and do all of my own bearing (mains, and rods) clearances but the shop that my cousin used to work at shut down so I have no where to do it.)
The car will run NA until I break it in, and then Ill install the turbo, Tial wg, Tial BOV, Stainless tubular exhaust mani etc etc etc..
I am thinking late spring, early summer. I have to keep working this OT.. whew... this shit is so expensive!
gtracer2b
02-18-2003, 03:55 PM
Hey what are the good places to have engine internals reworked? that's my next step in my plans for my engine this summer and im trying to figure out who would be the best doing it for me. Id like to get it (Jspec H22a) ported and polished, sleeved, new pistons, valves, valve springs, etc done, with the intent of building it for a turbo setup. Anyone who knows more about this stuff than I do please let me know what is normally done to the internals of an engine like mine in order to get it set up as best as possible for a turbo setup. Also, what are the good turbos that are out there? this is a realm i havent explored much yet. Thanks
HighPSI TSi Guy
02-18-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by Dublocivic
Hey Brandon :)
I am sending the block off for the installation of the nodular iron sleeves next week.
I am also having Wiseco pistons and steel h-beam forged rods installed (I would install it and do all of my own bearing (mains, and rods) clearances but the shop that my cousin used to work at shut down so I have no where to do it.)
The car will run NA until I break it in, and then Ill install the turbo, Tial wg, Tial BOV, Stainless tubular exhaust mani etc etc etc..
I am thinking late spring, early summer. I have to keep working this OT.. whew... this shit is so expensive!
if you build this monster.. i will pay for your gas to come visit fredericksburg this summer and lay the smackdown on some people.. it will be priceless..
fredericksburg - the land where a b16 in a civic hatch with nothing else is fast....
Dublocivic
02-18-2003, 04:31 PM
Hey what are the good places to have engine internals reworked? that's my next step in my plans for my engine this summer and im trying to figure out who would be the best doing it for me. Id like to get it (Jspec H22a) ported and polished, sleeved, new pistons, valves, valve springs, etc done, with the intent of building it for a turbo setup. Anyone who knows more about this stuff than I do please let me know what is normally done to the internals of an engine like mine in order to get it set up as best as possible for a turbo setup. Also, what are the good turbos that are out there? this is a realm i havent explored much yet. Thanks
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Well it depends on what your ultimate goals are. Send me an email (dublocivic@hotmail.com) and I can hook you up with what you need.
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if you build this monster.. i will pay for your gas to come visit fredericksburg this summer and lay the smackdown on some people.. it will be priceless..
fredericksburg - the land where a b16 in a civic hatch with nothing else is fast....
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Hey Dave :)
Once I get it up and running, tuned and under pressure Ill come to FB and see how much money I can make .. :P
HighPSI TSi Guy
02-18-2003, 04:39 PM
originally posted by crazy fast civic guy
Hey Dave :)
Once I get it up and running, tuned and under pressure Ill come to FB and see how much money I can make .. :P
if you get lucky and it's a good night when all the idiots are out.. probably quite a bit.. i saw a guy lose $300 in about 5 minutes once last summer.. good stuff..
DeezUU
02-18-2003, 05:26 PM
Plans for my car huh ........
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Mwaaa haaa haaaaa !
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MWAAA HAAA HAAAHAAA !!!
1TZ JENN
02-18-2003, 05:58 PM
chris u dork ;) hehe
fatboyee
02-18-2003, 07:37 PM
:wtf: damn, nobody invited ME to come make some money... im going to go cry now:wtf:
FlimFlam
02-18-2003, 09:23 PM
Mo money Mo problems Mo...ha...i said Mo...and your name is Mo...but i was saying mo.....but....you....and ..............(blaming this on lack of sleep)
-Kevin............................mo
LETHAL EFI
02-18-2003, 10:23 PM
mid to low 10's natural aspirated 310ci. in the 93 coupe.
not sure what my 95 will do ;) (motor alone has already nailed mid 11's with stock iron heads) last year. and a few changes have been done(daily driver)
wait a turbod b16a running 9's?? funny yet the drag civics aren't running 9's lol. Sorry I know a guy with a supercharged b16a2 in the crx, with ALOT of other shit done and he ran a 14 with a bad launch, and its only in the 13's possibly highs 12's when lucky.
And you can talk all the honda stuff, dont worry I will understand.
FlimFlam
02-19-2003, 12:38 AM
Hey loco, i wasnt going to bring anything up due to a flame war starting...but i thought the same. PRO FWD cars are running 8's with a base of a H22A with T76-91 turbos. I know he said 9s, not 8s...but i work on a 9 second CRX that is still based from a H22a.
I've never seen a streetable B16 of any type running 9s. Im not saying they dont exist...i just havent seen it. Show me.
If not, like i said...i can get you in the 9's. I built a H22a a few months back thats running 9.40's, but is in a full drag CRX. Its horribly out of tune and needs work. Should be in the high 8's by spring time with a lil parts swappin.
I'd like to know your whole parts list...see what im missing here. I'd deffinitly like to know the size of the "cranksnapper" turbo. What intake (custom?) are you going to use. What size injectors?
Kevin - one more thing...where did you get the Tial Wastegate..and how much???...thanks
Got a price on my pistons, wrist-pins, rings, and cam today. Looks like this might come out cheaper than I expected :)
Now if I could just find time to start wrenching...
BlownPony
02-19-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Nic
Got a price on my pistons, wrist-pins, rings, and cam today. Looks like this might come out cheaper than I expected :)
Now if I could just find time to start wrenching...
Look out for the snowball effect. It happened to me and I spent way more money than I had wanted too.
Yea, I know I'm going to end up a windage tray and longtubes right away, going to end up needing a cage, etc. etc. :woowoo:
BlownPony
02-19-2003, 09:19 AM
Keith Craft told me not to waste my money on a windage try. They don't see a real benefit to them. I just bought a good oil pan.
Thanks for the heads up, luckily, I've already got just about everything I need for right now and only have to pick up a few extra's.
Dublocivic
02-19-2003, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by FlodaXR4
Hey loco, i wasnt going to bring anything up due to a flame war starting...but i thought the same. PRO FWD cars are running 8's with a base of a H22A with T76-91 turbos. I know he said 9s, not 8s...but i work on a 9 second CRX that is still based from a H22a.
I've never seen a streetable B16 of any type running 9s. Im not saying they dont exist...i just havent seen it. Show me.
If not, like i said...i can get you in the 9's. I built a H22a a few months back thats running 9.40's, but is in a full drag CRX. Its horribly out of tune and needs work. Should be in the high 8's by spring time with a lil parts swappin.
I'd like to know your whole parts list...see what im missing here. I'd deffinitly like to know the size of the "cranksnapper" turbo. What intake (custom?) are you going to use. What size injectors?
Kevin - one more thing...where did you get the Tial Wastegate..and how much???...thanks
Hey Xr4 the CRX h22 car sounds like it hauls :)
whos car is it?
Take a look at Jason Hunt's car ran 9.8's@150+in street trim b-series motor.
Im not saying the b16a is going to be 81mm bore :p
It will be based off of a b16a motor in favor of the optimal Rod-2-stroke ratio that creates the high-revving nature of the b16a geometry.
The motor will be buzzed to about 9500. I am getting GE sleeves.
I dont really want to get into what trim turbo etc that is what keeps us competitive. It will utilize 61 garret wheel with some trick super-efficient blades. The hot side will be flanged t4.
I dont like to tell everyone my setup because thieves SUCK and I like to stay competitive.
The injectors that I am going to start with are 890cc. If I start getting close to 90% duty or higher, Ill step up to some 1000cc injectors.
I will be using an equal length manifold to aid spool times..(it should spool no later than 5-5500 with the correct trim)
What else do you want to know?
I tell you most of the guys that do not run so hot with tons of power are lacking 1 of 2 things either the suspension setup is not tuned properly or they cannot drive. You cannot slap an average Joe into a 600hp FWD and expect him to run 9 second et's. It takes LOTS of practice and know-how to get the job done. Lots of these guys on the scene do not have the correct understanding to put together a package that works together correctly. Each part should work well with the next. It is a series of the correct compromises to be successful.
--Adam
Obtw I said low 10's high 9's.
Rockybling
02-19-2003, 02:28 PM
putting my mr2 turbo to perfect running order and into the twelves. just high twelves and ill be happy!:D
The Wok
02-19-2003, 02:29 PM
I changed mine to blue paint and white rims...
Rockybling
02-19-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by mstr22u
I changed mine to blue paint and white rims...
you should try and make it to one of the mr2 meets on saturday in newpot news. we had like 5 one time but hope to get some more once the wheather gets better.
well civic it seems unlike most people on this board that u really know your stuff.
if you can get it into the 9's thats great, I just dnt know though. I never thought the b16 series motor was 9500 rpm reving engine, I always thought that the b18 series was the higher reving of the bunch and that is 8000-8500, maybe I am wrong though.
I dont know about the 9 sec. on street trim though, I just think there is no way. maybe on slicks, but not street trim, with full interior and everything.
The Wok
02-19-2003, 10:24 PM
Daniel you gotta help me with this disc changer and these driving lights.
I don't know shit about wiring/etc.
Dublocivic
02-20-2003, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by LOCO
well civic it seems unlike most people on this board that u really know your stuff.
if you can get it into the 9's thats great, I just dnt know though. I never thought the b16 series motor was 9500 rpm reving engine, I always thought that the b18 series was the higher reving of the bunch and that is 8000-8500, maybe I am wrong though.
I dont know about the 9 sec. on street trim though, I just think there is no way. maybe on slicks, but not street trim, with full interior and everything.
Oh.. haha there is no way that I would be able to do it on street tires! I forgot to add that this will be in street trim meaning full weight, no lexan... possibly full exhaust (3.5in mandrel) with slicks. As for rpm capabilities you can spin any motor as high as you want as long as you have a stiff enough valve spring and strong enough rods/rod bolts. I could take it to 10k if it made power that high (I am sure it would but I dont want to push it for the sake of longevity). I have seen a stock b16a motor spin to 9200 rpm on stock springs and retainers multiple times.. anything above that and they will float.
I have a set of 24.5 in MT's on a set of Bogart wheels... If I need more I will step up to a 25x10 M&H. Here is an exterior pic with the slicks on...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/pa6424cf7714e12095051b37af0964969/fcf5d094.jpg
Another
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid41/p70f2c714492d92a8cd005e2bda81e721/fcf5d093.jpg
FlimFlam
02-20-2003, 11:27 AM
Dublocivic - :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
The car i work on is one of Ed Bergenholtz's retired CRX's. Its H22a based with a T91 huffer and NO nitrous as of now (pretty much a Steph Papadakis wana be). Best its ran is a 9.46. When we were still testing things and getting everything good enough to run i actually ran this car up and down Rt. 1 near me and got pulled...HAHAHA. Its a full out drag car obviously including lexan and the cop still demanded me to roll the window down..............dumbass. Anyways i'd deffinitly like to hear what you go through and your progress. We are having a horrible time getting ours in tune and hooking right. We dyno'd it and it put 879hp to the wheels, so we should be in the 8s for sure...but it just doesnt work right when it gets to the track. Im sure several half shafts later we'll get it right. The car is in California as of now testing...should be back to VMP during Battle of Imports, but who knows???
As for spinning motors fast...our high side chip is set at 11,400. And it feels like its still making power up there even though the motor sounds demonic as hell at that speed.
Kevin - i think im one of VERY few people that own a Mustang GT and race VTECs....thats almost unheard of!...lol
I would love to take that out for a spin one time lol.
Glad to see a honda guy that really knows about cars, and reepects other cars.
Dennis I will help you dont worry, maybe I will do it at target tommorrow.
gtracer2b
02-20-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by FlodaXR4
Dublocivic - :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship:
The car i work on is one of Ed Bergenholtz's retired CRX's. Its H22a based with a T91 huffer and NO nitrous as of now (pretty much a Steph Papadakis wana be). Best its ran is a 9.46. When we were still testing things and getting everything good enough to run i actually ran this car up and down Rt. 1 near me and got pulled...HAHAHA. Its a full out drag car obviously including lexan and the cop still demanded me to roll the window down..............dumbass. Anyways i'd deffinitly like to hear what you go through and your progress. We are having a horrible time getting ours in tune and hooking right. We dyno'd it and it put 879hp to the wheels, so we should be in the 8s for sure...but it just doesnt work right when it gets to the track. Im sure several half shafts later we'll get it right. The car is in California as of now testing...should be back to VMP during Battle of Imports, but who knows???
As for spinning motors fast...our high side chip is set at 11,400. And it feels like its still making power up there even though the motor sounds demonic as hell at that speed.
Kevin - i think im one of VERY few people that own a Mustang GT and race VTECs....thats almost unheard of!...lol
okay, i am in love with the numbers you say ur h22a is pushing. is it possible to tell me what things need to be done to get my h22 to the same stats w/o giving up any "secrets" like some racer like to keep to themselves? i have mine in an accord, so weightwise i know i wont be able to do the times u do, but i would love to have a 21 or 11 sec street trim accord .
FlimFlam
02-20-2003, 01:27 PM
Actually i cant tell you much, mostly because pretty much everything from intake to exhaust is all custom. Its hard to tell you what you need to do to make that much power without building a all out race car. This is NOT a street car, i dont claim it to be even though i drove it on the street for a bit. Its a race motor as well and cannot take daily driving. Being that it only makes REAL power above 6k, it wouldnt be too much fun in traffic.
Overall you could get 12s out of your car with some well chosen bolt ons and a substantial hair dryer. I'll post more as soon as i get back.......i gotta run.
BTW...you car is very very good looking in that pic!!! Congrats on that aspect...now you just gotta start runnin as good as you look!!! :D j/k...me likey h22a accords
-Kevin
Dublocivic
02-20-2003, 02:25 PM
Wow 879 is a BUNCH of power! Are you guys still running gas? or are you on meth?
I am hoping for 5-600 hp on c116. What traps are you guys hitting? is it tube from the firewall forward, back halfed ?
What ems are you using?
Cool.. I just want to have a respectable street machine.
Something that I can take to the track load my race map making a few small tweaks based on temp, humidity track temp.. dial in the correct boost per gear.. bust out some low 10s high 9's consistantly and drive it home (as long as I dont break :p)
The only thing that will make my car somewhat streetable will be the ability to have a street tune.. fatten up the tables for 93 oct pull a tad of timing and turn down the boost...
gtracer2b
02-20-2003, 02:51 PM
ok im thinkin flodaxr4, dublocivic, and me need to get together and have in-depth convo on all this shit ur sayin, cuz im understanding just enough of it to say dammnnnn,,, thats what i wanna do to my car :D
thanks for the compliment on my car- it got a lot done to it looks wise when it got stolen and i had to rebuild it ground up- the car used to gold, thats corvette blue. itll look even better when i get my new sides and rear and my 19" konig prophets, as well as the carbon fiber diffuser to replace the fiberglass one in my rear bumper that me and my friend are gonna make. Thats one nice about goin to tech- 3/4 of the school is smartass engineers so when we put our heads together we can fig nething out, so pretty soon ill be able to reproduce just about anything in carbon fiber by myself,,,, mmmmmmmmmm ;)
God its nice to see a 10 sec. streetable honda, without a cocky attitude behind it. You dont see them around here lol.
Jason u said you can make stuff out of carbon fiber?? I might need you then, dennis also. Can you make hoods and everything?? Cuz I have some big projects that I need someone that can lay CF for.
Lazarus
02-20-2003, 03:47 PM
to many to list but giving the car a total make over to include Boost, Maybe Nos, Complete engine upgrade and body it touch up
The Wok
02-20-2003, 04:07 PM
All the CF shit I'm getting I should be able to buy premade. Maybe the TRD wing centerpiece isn't, dunno.
gtracer2b
02-20-2003, 06:42 PM
Tell me with a lil more detail what it is that ur lookin to do and ill talk to my friend and see if thinks we can do it. We can talk price once i know what it is that you want- i can also get colored cf too
Damn jason I really wanted the colord CF also. Well for my car its all for a probe, so that will give you a little bit of an idea.
Plans are
Gas door
hood
some engine stuff, like battery cover, fuse box cover, radiator cover, stuff like that
Inside, dash, and I want to some something with the 2 nitrous bottles in the back with CF
I think dennis wants the hood, engine cover, back cover, and some other stuff for his mr2.
got any pics of work you have done and any colord ones??
FlimFlam
02-20-2003, 09:56 PM
Dublocivic -
Wow 879 is a BUNCH of power! Are you guys still running gas? or are you on meth?
We run Union 76 118oct. in a 1 gallon cell near where the passengers feet should be.
I am hoping for 5-600 hp on c116.
Id say thats very possible. It of course completely rests on how your tune will be, but with that "range" of hp you should be fine with 116 in my mind.
What traps are you guys hitting?
Fastest trap speed as of yet was 153mph, which is obviously a preview of what this car SHOULD be doing. Thats good for a 9 sec flat run, and if we ever got it to hook it would be there by now. Im not a suspension person for the drag strip, so i couldnt help you there at all...heh. As of RIGHT NOW, we are back to our shakedown turbo, it being a T76. We are just working out all the bugs and tuning suspension now. We know what the motor can do, but everyone is furious with the lack GO.
is it tube from the firewall forward, back halfed ?
The car is fully tubed, tube'd, and skinned with all lexan. Like i said, its a full out racecar. There isnt any carbon fiber pieces in the body...........yet.
I dont like to tell everyone my setup because thieves SUCK and I like to stay competitive.
And on that note...i'll stop talking. I can let you know some of our old set up things if you care to know later....
-Kevin
fatboyee
02-20-2003, 10:03 PM
no one cares! it's the same platform for the orange riding mower in my back yard.
lol. juuuus proddin guys. talk that import jabber, i'll join in when it comes back over to the topic of v8s and domestic 4cyls
hey now get off the imports lol, I like the best of both worlds (not like that freaks)
fatboyee
02-20-2003, 10:09 PM
i knew ther was something a lil iffy about you... LMAO
'purple probe'... does this sound like it is something found in priscillas or is that just me????
jp with ya man. lol
gtracer2b
02-20-2003, 10:23 PM
Originally posted by LOCO
Damn jason I really wanted the colord CF also. Well for my car its all for a probe, so that will give you a little bit of an idea.
Plans are
Gas door
hood
some engine stuff, like battery cover, fuse box cover, radiator cover, stuff like that
Inside, dash, and I want to some something with the 2 nitrous bottles in the back with CF
I think dennis wants the hood, engine cover, back cover, and some other stuff for his mr2.
got any pics of work you have done and any colord ones??
hey loco- me and my friend have just done the first round of playin with the stuff, and it actually went much better than expected. the stuff looks friggin awesome. The way we're prolly gonna do it is to do the top layer in cf (duh) then reinforce whatever we make w/ prolly 3 or so layers of a really durable fiberglass. Most of the parts that you mentioned are all parts that we ourselves have toyed with doing in cf. Like I said we can get all the colors, but colored cf seems to be a lil more pricey than the standard gray and black stuff. We've actually been using the blue and black stuff to learn on, and it looks gorgeous once the epoxy has hardened and its been buffed a lil. REAL light too. I still havent talked to my friend about how we could work out doin the stuff for you, but as soon as i do ill let you know. I'll also try to take some pics the next time we play with it.
Dublocivic
02-21-2003, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by FlodaXR4
Dublocivic -
We run Union 76 118oct. in a 1 gallon cell near where the passengers feet should be.
Id say thats very possible. It of course completely rests on how your tune will be, but with that "range" of hp you should be fine with 116 in my mind.
Fastest trap speed as of yet was 153mph, which is obviously a preview of what this car SHOULD be doing. Thats good for a 9 sec flat run, and if we ever got it to hook it would be there by now. Im not a suspension person for the drag strip, so i couldnt help you there at all...heh. As of RIGHT NOW, we are back to our shakedown turbo, it being a T76. We are just working out all the bugs and tuning suspension now. We know what the motor can do, but everyone is furious with the lack GO.
The car is fully tubed, tube'd, and skinned with all lexan. Like i said, its a full out racecar. There isnt any carbon fiber pieces in the body...........yet.
And on that note...i'll stop talking. I can let you know some of our old set up things if you care to know later....
-Kevin
See the part of the reason that you might be having traction problems is because the amount of tq the h22 puts out. Ever thought about destroking that h22 to 2L and revving it a bit higher? You may have better luck with traction (with slightly less displacement) if you have already exhausted your resources with suspension tweaks. This is the same principal that I am using with the short-stroke 1.8L
I know of someone that could help if you run into high rpm shift issues with the h22 trans... he was making adapter plates to utilize B-series trannys with the H22.. it makes for a NICE setup that flllys...
Jason Hunt (he is a driving SOB) hit a 9.8@150 in his street crx with the F.A.S.T ems and a fairly simple setup. I know that it is possible to go even faster in street trim with the right combo. I hope to be seeing 140+ traps.
Do you guys run a liquid to air or air to air IC?
With the all the thefts in NOVA lately you have to be careful, but for a race car I wouldnt worry, but in my case a street car.. it blows.
It is cool to find some local techy guys.. :thumbup:
well jason I was going to go with blue and black lol, if you want to play around with anything on my new car to experiment let me know, that would be great.
If you can get some of this stuff working right, the probe parts, I can get you alot of orders I know I can. I in in the probe thing pretty big (not like that again freaks lol) and alot of the guys are looking for some of these CF parts, if you can do them I can get you some good money.
If some time you want to get together and experiment with my car just let me know, and I would like to take a look at the stuff you have done.
FlimFlam
02-21-2003, 12:23 PM
We know that the problem is due to the imense hp from the motor...but we'll figure it out eventually. The first plans were a B18C5 base but we had a 95 H22a already here.
We are using the F.A.S.T. system as well right now...forgot to include that im my last post.
We are running a 4 core air to air as of now, but its going to be replaced with a water-air come spring. What we'd like to do is keep the hp around the same and back the boost off so we can keep this motor in one piece for longer then one raceday. The Turbonetics Racegate is pushing 42psi as of now. We will back it off to around 35-36psi with the water-air and see if its around 800hp. We also have a bunch of other things we'll be changing up soon including the turbo...downsizing.
Are you planning on using any nitrous Dublocivic? Seems that could be a easy way you could make a streetable 9 sec car. Just had a decent turbo and some gas. Tuning it may not be fun, but she'd scoot. We are trying to keep away from nitrous and just keep it highly boosted. But who knows what we'll do in the future.
-Kevin
fatboyee
02-21-2003, 02:05 PM
all this talk about hondas is giving me a headache... y'all lost me right after the 'h' lol. but carry on, nm me
FlimFlam
02-21-2003, 03:59 PM
Yea, it must get confusing for people like you to keep one form of racing with one type of car straight in your head eh? :D
I autox, will road race, have drag raced, own domestics and imports and race them all. Its called being open to anything, but you wouldnt know about that would you.
Back to the point...
I got word today that we will be receiving our Precision Turbo 1600cc injectors this week. Mate that to our Aeromotive FPR and more tuning and maybe we can get some more hp out of less boost!
We are also already planning on a different motor/turbo combo that should be coming along this spring/summer. Im not sure if i'll be building it because it might still be over in California though. Either way im pretty sure it will be a sleeved B18C5 and a T76.
-Kevin
Susan RIddle
02-25-2003, 01:42 PM
Hey Well IM looking to start a big job on Mine I have a 96 Eclipse and im trying to do a Lancer Evoq swap. I need INfo though Help me out guys I know you got the smarts ANd im tired of being left behind Its my turn to blow others Away!
ummm a evo swop in an eclipse?? Is that even possible??
Susan RIddle
02-25-2003, 02:28 PM
it should be a direct bolt up. Ive talked to a couple people and they agree
Susan RIddle
02-25-2003, 02:29 PM
not exactly sure though, thats why im trying to hear from other people what they think
Susan RIddle
02-25-2003, 02:35 PM
urm i just found some info about it might could possibly work with wiring harness changes and custom mounts :/
Susan RIddle
02-25-2003, 02:56 PM
well i guess if anyone can help email me im heading off thanks
1TZ JENN
02-25-2003, 02:59 PM
you might want to post in tech talk.. and let some of the guru's find out for ya
i am thinking that for the price and work it would be to do what you want, u could almost buy a evo. I am think that the trans and engine from it would cost alot.
then you have to think, u will prob need diff. motor mounts, the wireing harness would have to be chnaged and thats ALOT of work. was your a 5 speed before?? Cuz if not you would chnage that also.
Eclipse's are a dist. car, but isn;t the evo a vris system car, that would all have to be changed and almost wouldn;t be worth the swap in itself.
The trany for the evo is for awd, and the rs is fwd, too much to deal with.
I would just buy a GST engine and go with that. Or sell your car and buy a GSX
The Wok
02-25-2003, 03:32 PM
Are you sure the RSs have the 4g63? I know the awd turbo DSMs do. That would be a direct bolt-up.
The Wok
02-25-2003, 03:38 PM
Yes the non-turbo Eclipses are pretty much a lost cause. They do have high re-sale though. Dump it and get another car.
Dublocivic
02-25-2003, 04:39 PM
Hey Suzie,
What car are you swapping the 4g63 into?
a 420a Non Turbo eclipse/talon?
I could tell you how to go about it but just go to
www.vfaq.com or
www.dsmtuners.com.
You should be able to find something there.
Dublocivic
02-25-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by FlodaXR4
Yea, it must get confusing for people like you to keep one form of racing with one type of car straight in your head eh? :D
I autox, will road race, have drag raced, own domestics and imports and race them all. Its called being open to anything, but you wouldnt know about that would you.
Back to the point...
I got word today that we will be receiving our Precision Turbo 1600cc injectors this week. Mate that to our Aeromotive FPR and more tuning and maybe we can get some more hp out of less boost!
We are also already planning on a different motor/turbo combo that should be coming along this spring/summer. Im not sure if i'll be building it because it might still be over in California though. Either way im pretty sure it will be a sleeved B18C5 and a T76.
-Kevin
Wait a second.. you got 1600cc PT injectors (I didnt think they made injectors) an Aeromotive FPR..?
That shouldnt really make a bit of difference with running less boost and more power.
(EDIT)
Never mind .. you got a PT and some 1600cc .. lol
The motor didnt have a aftermarket FPR?? before?
How do you all tune? Wide Band Lam? EGT's?(hehe)
Now if the got rid of that t76 and got a NICE Precision Turbo you WILL make more power with less boost. :D
The package that they create with properly sized compressor housing/hot side and efficient blade design alone will make more power with less boost.
FinalFlash
02-26-2003, 08:24 PM
Only had the car 4 months, and this'll just sound like gibberish to the non-import, non-Honda folk, but:
DONE:
Carsound 2.5" cat
Hondata IM gasket
Mugen twin loop exhaust
Mugen fan switch
Mugen thermostat
AEM CAI
EFI PMS
PLANNED:
Greddy turbo w/type 24 FMIC
NX 50 shot Ntercooler
J&S Safeguard Ver.2
Tech Edge wideband O2 sensor/display
Skunk2 H22 IM
Erick's racing tb
Jun flywheel
God, that T76 is bigger than the T66 on the 4th gen Prelude that's going to be in this year's GumBall. :wow: :beer:
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