Nov. 17th Little Creek autox Official thread

[lightningd]

ok, keep it on topic PLEASE. this is the thread for the autox at the ACU-4 Little Creek base. it's #1 of the 4 in the TSCC series. i hope on being competive. we'll see how it goes.

questions and comments below (ones that are on topic)

[SmartAss]

Can n00bs go, I might have my suspension finished by then. If not Ill have to hit up the next one.

[Slammed Sentra]

yes anyone can go......you just have to pre-register if you want to compete. now everyone be advised that becaue its at little creek amphib base you have to be on the access list.


see the link below to preregister and get on the access list....

[Slammed Sentra]

to get on the access list for ACU-4 your name has to be on this list:

Click here to gain access (http://www.tidewatersportscarclub.com/schedule/access_list.htm)


to pre-register go here:

Click here to pre-register (http://www.tidewatersportscarclub.com/cgi-bin/reg.cgi)

[Slammed Sentra]

one more thing id like to add, i will post the super secret meeting spot a few days before the 17th so stay tuned.

[DrkIrny]

yes u must tell

[AK1200]

it's 25 clams, right?

[DrkIrny]

fuk this shit keeps getting more and more expensive

[AK1200]

Originally posted by drkirny
fuk this shit keeps getting more and more expensive

only this one, it's for charity......

[trip]

Originally posted by AK1200
only this one, it's for charity......

lol that will stop the wining.

[lightningd]

Originally posted by trip
lol that will stop the wining.

fuck an a i'm broke

[Bandit]

im back. hopefully ill have my tires by saturday so i can start off the winter four able to actually compete...otherwise it will be all fun for me(as usual. lol)

[Eric16v]

So far, my car is working properly, we'll see this weekend.

[AliMac]

I'm planning on checking this out, (I've never seen auto-x before) and is it $25 to get in or just run, how much to be a spectator? :)

[The Barst]

25 to participate, but if you want to watch you still have to be on the access list by today.

http://www.tidewatersportscarclub.com

[lightningd]

watching is free, just make sure you get on the Base Access List so they let you on base.

[AliMac]

Yea I'm on the access list, I just wasn't sure about any pricing. Thanks!

[SignfcntOthr]

I can get you on base if I'm not working Alison.

[AliMac]

Excellent, I should be good though since I got on that list.

haha now Joe you DEFINITELY can't get lost ;)

[DrkIrny]

Originally posted by AliMac
Excellent, I should be good though since I got on that list.

haha now Joe you DEFINITELY can't get lost ;)

not cool, ur gonna jinx me :D

[AliMac]

haha whatever! :)

someone PM me and let me know what time and stuff thanks :)

[lightningd]

www.tidewatersportscarclub.com

[DrkIrny]

pm me super secret meeting spot

[Eric16v]

Originally posted by drkirny
pm me super secret meeting spot

ya'll kill me

[Bandit]

how bout the same as last time. that worked out for everyone, and was a good spot

[trip]

i need a mind refreshment so pm me


if it rains im seriously going to cry

[98sr20ve]

I feel the same way. At least I can drag race on friday night

[DrkIrny]

Originally posted by Eric16v
ya'll kill me

hey i need to know

[StreetEvo]

Hey, don't forget about me. Lemme know where to be and I'll try my best to be there. I really wanted to get on the list but by the time I went to register sunday afternoon, it was full. That's a lot of people, but sorry if I'm rambling. Yeah, so lemme know.

[trip]

are you on the access list? cause you can come and hope for a no show and register there. but you cant get on the site unless your name is on the "VIP" access list. :)

[StreetEvo]

Yeah, I've been racing with TSCC since Feb. but I haven't been in a few months b/c I was waiting on some new tires.

[SilverNB]

i have the 16th spot reserved (which is the first car in the second heat) but i cant make it, any of you guys want it??

[roadRacer]

e-mail Curtis or Chad and tell them you are not going to make it.... They'd appreciate it.

[tecnic1]

I'm not driving.

[trip]

Originally posted by tecnic1
I'm not driving.

your not racing? but your still coming right?

[tecnic1]

I guess I'll roll through for a few

[trip]

youd better man you slut! why no driving?

[AK1200]

where is everybody meeting sunday morning?

[98sr20ve]

Originally posted by AK1200
where is everybody meeting sunday morning?

Lets not play a game about where we are going to meet. Last time we meet at the McDonalds on Hampton Blvd near 64. Same place this time. Lets meet at 8:30 am. What does everyone think? Also, for those who are wondering about the rain. They will still run even in the rain from what I have heard from Eric. Maybe being late in the driving order will help everyone out (it might clear up later in the day). Eric also said the course is going to be set up very similiar to the National course. Should be very nice.

[Bandit]

works for me.

[DrkIrny]

damn i may no be able to race. my car is acting up like a bitch right now but im bustin my ass to fix it before sunday.

[trip]

I FUCKING HATE MY GOD DAMN LIFE!!!!!!! MY PARENTS MAY NOT LET ME FUCKING RACE!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT THESE SLICKS, BUSTED MY ASS TO PAINT THEM AND IT IS THE LAST RACE AT LITTLECREEK. GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

[DrkIrny]

hey i cant fukin race. my car is down for the count right now. i cant get it up by sunday no matter what.

[lightningd]

Originally posted by trip
I FUCKING HATE MY GOD DAMN LIFE!!!!!!! MY PARENTS MAY NOT LET ME FUCKING RACE!!!!!!!! I JUST GOT THESE SLICKS, BUSTED MY ASS TO PAINT THEM AND IT IS THE LAST RACE AT LITTLECREEK. GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD!

son, you gotta keep ya head up


Originally posted by drkirny
hey i cant fukin race. my car is down for the count right now. i cant get it up by sunday no matter what.

fuckin' unreliable hondas.

[Slammed Sentra]

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
Lets not play a game about where we are going to meet. Last time we meet at the McDonalds on Hampton Blvd near 64. Same place this time. Lets meet at 8:30 am


damnit steve its my job to announce the super secret spot. and by the way its North Hampton blvd. But yes steve is correct. it will be 8:30am at the MCDonalds on North Hampton Blvd.

Directions!!!!
take 64 to North Hampton Blvd (heading East)
go down about a mile and on the right will be Mc Donalds
it comes up quick so dont be driving too fast.
anyone and everyone can come, you dont have to be an autox nazi to meet with us.

[AliMac]

I'm going to head over to the base around 11 instead, 830 is too early for me ;)

See ya, or I'll be meeting most of you, there :)

[98sr20ve]

Originally posted by Slammed Sentra
damnit steve its my job to announce the super secret spot. and by the way its North Hampton blvd. But yes steve is correct

If you are going to announce it then announce it. Some people only tune in every once in a while and then we have a mad rush of people going "where are we meeting" "is that a good time" "which northhampton" "blah blah blah blah" I think more then one days notice is appropriate. Sometimes people internet goes out and then I/they would be screwed. My neighbor cut thru everones telephone lines and cable yesterday (I only lost my phone lines). I was without phone for 24hours and some people were without cable/internet for just as long. If it had happened today I am sure I would not have gotten any messages. That is why I posted.

[roadRacer]

Regina, Brianna and I will not be at the event tomorrow. So there are at least 3 numbers available.

[98sr20ve]

And I will not be at McDonalds at 8:30 am. I am going to tune in and look at the weather first. Standing in the rain in 50degree weather is not my idea of fun. My wife has promised me a day at my favorite restaurants with her and I may take her up on that offer instead. Registration will close at 10:30 and first car is off at 10:30 AM. Don't show up late if you do plan to run.

[TomsSound]

Im on the access list to get on the base... but i have no clue of how to get to Little Creek Base. And im not sure if i will be there early enough to meet you guys at McDonalds. Could someone post directions to get to the Base and where the racing is on the base?
Thanks in advance.

[98sr20ve]

Originally posted by TomsSound
Im on the access list to get on the base... but i have no clue of how to get to Little Creek Base. And im not sure if i will be there early enough to meet you guys at McDonalds. Could someone post directions to get to the Base and where the racing is on the base?
Thanks in advance.

http://www.tidewatersportscarclub.com/

Go to the registrations page and you will find a link for directions.

[Eric16v]

keep an eye on this
http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/mosaic_radar.asp?partner=accuweather&nav=home&type=loop&nxtype=RE&getarea=US_

[TomsSound]

there will be racing even if its raining ... right?

[roadRacer]

Originally posted by TomsSound
there will be racing even if its raining ... right? Yes, there will be racing rain or shine. We have run in the very very cold. They cancel the event if traveling to the event is unsafe, (as in ice on the roads everywhere) but otherwise it will happen.

[Slammed Sentra]

last time i checked the directions on there website were wrong. the easiest way to get there is take 64 to north hampton blvd take that all the way down untill you hit independence, take the second exit (going north) then you can use the rest of the directions on there website

[Slammed Sentra]

im still planning on going. its supposed to clear out of here later today anyway. and besides when i was writing this it was not raining.

[DrkIrny]

im there just nto racing

[lightningd]

OK. it's over now, this is the start of the results.

my times were of the sort of
1:03.4
1:01.2
1:01.0
1:01.5

FTD was Kienen (normally in the yellow crazy stang) w/ his WRX at a smooth 1:00.8 so i believe i was second fastest :) i give credit to my paradas, they work so well in the rain. even though the day was wet and cold as hell, i had a good time cuz i was well prepared for it. PAX wise, i'm assuming i got first, and first in STS class too. anyways, i enjoyed the day. it was so exciting competing neck and neck for FTD. if the next even is dry then i'll probably be back to the norm.

[98sr20ve]

Good job. Your times were unreal. I got a 106 something (can't really hear in my car). My car was hating the conditions. Enough of the excuses. God runs.

[Axelerate]

I was unable to go. I had some family stuff to take care of, and plus the weather didn't make me miss it. This weekend though I am defeinetly going.

How many cars showed up?

Damn, Dave it looks like you did pretty good. Congragulations. I thought I'd be nice and let you take this event. :D

[Eric16v]

Dave, you car was probably the best car to have for the conditions.
long wheel base = predictable handling
auto = not alot of wheel spin
abs = braking without lock up (assuming you have abs)

I think I could have run a 1:02 if I will ever get around to fixing my shifter bushings (2nd gear was hard to find on 2 of my runs). Best was a 1:03.???

[RichRotorhead]

lightningd, those are some impressive times I was in awe when they announced the times.

I on the other hand didn't do as well in my rear drive, balding street tires...

1:23:?? and missed a gate
1:17:??
1:12:??
1:10:??

I basically improved about 5 seconds on every run but the last

-Rich

[Blasphemous]

Originally posted by RichRotorhead
lightningd, those are some impressive times I was in awe when they announced the times.

I on the other hand didn't do as well in my rear drive, balding street tires...

1:23:?? and missed a gate
1:17:??
1:12:??
1:10:??

I basically improved about 5 seconds on every run but the last

-Rich
Is this Rich, red first-gen w/ the wing on back, Rich? This is Aaron.

[lightningd]

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
Good job. Your times were unreal. I got a 106 something (can't really hear in my car). My car was hating the conditions. Enough of the excuses. God runs.

i left my windows cracked so i could hear the car better. mine's pretty quiet w/ the windows up


Originally posted by Axelerate
I was unable to go. I had some family stuff to take care of, and plus the weather didn't make me miss it. This weekend though I am defeinetly going.

How many cars showed up?

Damn, Dave it looks like you did pretty good. Congragulations. I thought I'd be nice and let you take this event. :D

about 40-50 cars maybe, and...
:fu: buddy :)
actually, we would have been really close on this course, there wasn't a lot of straights for you torque monster to rape me on. i was competing w/ the wrx which has 230+hp to get the idea. i wish you were there, maybe all 3 of us could have been making it a hell of a race.


Originally posted by Eric16v
Dave, you car was probably the best car to have for the conditions.
long wheel base = predictable handling
auto = not alot of wheel spin
abs = braking without lock up (assuming you have abs)

I think I could have run a 1:02 if I will ever get around to fixing my shifter bushings (2nd gear was hard to find on 2 of my runs). Best was a 1:03.???

long and wide wheel base is one reason accords handle well
my auto is a actually and electrical tranny, so it can be driven manually just w/out the clutch. it even says it in the owners manual heh. needless to say, i shift it. i do get a little bit of wheelspin when i'm leaning due to the open dif.
and no abs here, i locked 'em up plenty of times. even on the fastest run.


Originally posted by RichRotorhead
lightningd, those are some impressive times I was in awe when they announced the times.

-Rich

thanx. i didn't get a chance to see you drive, i seen the car if it's the one aaron is talking about though. i was too busy gizzing all over myself, heh.

[Bandit]

1.08 somethin
1.06 somethin
1.05 somethin
1.05 somethin

if those cones didnt jump up at me on the last run, i was lookin at a 1.04 somethin. but 'sall good.

ftd for the guy's stationed there was a 1.13. and guess who set that.....the dodge ram.

[roadRacer]

Originally posted by RichRotorhead
lightningd, those are some impressive times I was in awe when they announced the times.

I on the other hand didn't do as well in my rear drive, balding street tires...

I basically improved about 5 seconds on every run but the last

-Rich

Rich, Cool to see you are here. This is Calvin with the ugly silver GSLSE from VIR. Good to see you here.

[Blasphemous]

Originally posted by roadRacer
Rich, Cool to see you are here. This is Calvin with the ugly silver GSLSE from VIR. Good to see you here.
Cool, good to see more rotorheads joinin. I want to X my T2, but I have to fix a few small things first... need an AFC, downpipe and tranny mounts. I'll have to get in on next season.

[lightningd]

aaron, when are you gonna get your ass out here and race??

[Blasphemous]

Originally posted by lightningd
aaron, when are you gonna get your ass out here and race??
When I can finally ever get the money to get my car up to par.

[lightningd]

you work for the military, get like free money for rent and food and shit. you have like 6 kids or something?

[Blasphemous]

Originally posted by lightningd
you work for the military, get like free money for rent and food and shit. you have like 6 kids or something?
yes, i'm in the military... they aren't giving me the free money, that's why the car isn't fixed... and we only have one kid.

[Skeletor]

1:15.XXX missed gate
1:14.xxx just went slow as hell for some reason
1:09.xxx hit a cone
1:07.xxx clean run

I could have been even better but I think I was afraid of the rain. I realized my tires suck in the rain.

[lightningd]

Originally posted by FastX7
yes, i'm in the military... they aren't giving me the free money, that's why the car isn't fixed... and we only have one kid.

oh shit i didn't realize you had a kid. i guess eventually in life you have priorities..... i hope i never get there, heh

[lightningd]

Results

TSCC November 2002 Autocross - Little Creek ACU-4

Here are the results from the TSCC Nov. 17 2002 autocross. There were 43 participants
who decided to autocross regardless of the much less than perfect weather. Deep
tread and all-wheel drive was the order of the day since the rain kept getting worse
as the day progressed. Working the course and keeping dry was almost impossible
due to the rain combined with the wind blowing off the Chesapeake Bay. I want
to give a special thanks to everyone who braved the weather. Curtis


# CLASS DRIVER CAR PEN TOTAL
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6 BS Bruce Thompson Honda S2000 0 1:03.764
39 BS Russ Meeker Nissan 300ZX TT 0 1:04.564
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77 BSP Jerry Crabtree BMW M3 0 1:02.814
7 BSP James McIver BMW M3 0 1:05.753
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24 CP Kienan Weber Mustang GT 0 1:00.829
5 CP Bret Weber Mustang GT 0 1:03.243
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30 CS Les Banyas Mazda Miata 0 1:05.994
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4 CSP Jason Sinnard Mazda Miata 0 1:05.416
9 CSP Jim Cawrse Datsun 1600 0 1:06.773
99 CSP Rob Redanz Mazda Miata 0 1:07.400
46 CSP Keith Edwards Honda CRX 0 1:08.964
101 CSP James Hattau Mazda Miata 0 1:11.110
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44 DM Glenn Bunch 289 Cobra 0 1:03.539
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104 DS Chris Hamilton Mini Cooper S 0 1:04.227
102 DS Dave Hinde Eclipse GT 0 1:05.120
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43 DSP Tom Bleh BMW 325is 0 1:02.355
17 DSP Curtis Staples BMW 325is 0 1:03.125
57 DSP Eric Thomas VW Jetta GLI 0 1:03.789
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47 EM John Sheally Cobra 289 0 1:02.505
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26 ES Chris Boling Mazda Miata 0 1:06.334
49 ES Josh Ward Mazda Miata 0 1:08.911
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28 ESP Dave Sigler Camaro SS 0 1:04.141
40 ESP Mike Powers Nissan 300ZX 0 1:06.733
90 ESP Robert Chatters Toyota Supra 0 1:07.752
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105 FSP Mike Schneider Toyota Corolla 0 1:05.949
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19 SM Chad Merritt Eagle Talon 0 1:02.695
34 SM Steve Foltz Nissan Sentra 0 1:06.824
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35 STS David Martin Honda Accord 0 1:01.001
93 STS Louis Pardo Subura WRX 0 1:03.164
58 STS Jackie Brown Pontiac Sunfire 0 1:05.608
98 STS Charles Richardson Honda Civic 0 1:07.967



Ladies

# CLASS DRIVER CAR PEN PAX
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33 ESPL Bridget Sigler Camaro SS 0 0:53.550
64 CSPL Amy Edwards Honda CRX 0 1:00.109

Novice

# CLASS DRIVER CAR PEN PAX
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2 ASN Doug Keiler Porsche 993 0 0:53.052
31 HSN Jim Harris Honda CRX 0 0:54.441
96 GSN James Villers Acura Ledgend 0 0:54.510
83 STSN Andrew Kumjian Nissan Sentra 0 0:54.580
42 FSN Jim Robinson 300 ZX Turbo 0 0:59.972
103 CSPN Richard Castane Mazada RX7 0 1:00.866


Street Tire

# CLASS DRIVER CAR PEN PAX
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8 HSX Michael Harris Honda CRX 0 0:50.559
69 GSX Robert Hamernik Honda Civic Si 0 0:50.906
85 DSX Paul Hamilton Mini Cooper S 0 0:51.667
84 ESX Fred Camron Mazda Miata 0 0:57.840


Overall Pax Results

# CLASS DRIVER CAR PEN PAX
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35 STS David Martin Honda Accord 0 0:47.825
93 STS Louis Pardo Subura WRX 0 0:49.521
8 HSX Michael Harris Honda CRX 0 0:50.559
69 GSX Robert Hamernik Honda Civic Si 0 0:50.906
43 DSP Tom Bleh BMW 325is 0 0:51.131
104 DS Chris Hamilton Mini Cooper S 0 0:51.253
58 STS Jackie Brown Pontiac Sunfire 0 0:51.437
85 DSX Paul Hamilton Mini Cooper S 0 0:51.667
17 DSP Curtis Staples BMW 325is 0 0:51.762
102 DS Dave Hinde Eclipse GT 0 0:51.966
24 CP Kienan Weber Mustang GT 0 0:52.070
19 SM Chad Merritt Eagle Talon 0 0:52.288
57 DSP Eric Thomas VW Jetta GLI 0 0:52.307
6 BS Bruce Thompson Honda S2000 0 0:52.733
77 BSP Jerry Crabtree BMW M3 0 0:52.764
28 ESP Dave Sigler Camaro SS 0 0:52.980
2 ASN Doug Keiler Porsche 993 0 0:53.052
26 ES Chris Boling Mazda Miata 0 0:53.200
98 STS Charles Richardson Honda Civic 0 0:53.286
39 BS Russ Meeker Nissan 300ZX TT 0 0:53.394
33 ESPL Bridget Sigler Camaro SS 0 0:53.550
30 CS Les Banyas Mazda Miata 0 0:53.587
105 FSP Mike Schneider Toyota Corolla 0 0:53.880
5 CP Bret Weber Mustang GT 0 0:54.136
31 HSN Jim Harris Honda CRX 0 0:54.441
96 GSN James Villers Acura Ledgend 0 0:54.510
83 STSN Andrew Kumjian Nissan Sentra 0 0:54.580
4 CSP Jason Sinnard Mazda Miata 0 0:55.080
40 ESP Mike Powers Nissan 300ZX 0 0:55.121
7 BSP James McIver BMW M3 0 0:55.233
49 ES Josh Ward Mazda Miata 0 0:55.267
34 SM Steve Foltz Nissan Sentra 0 0:55.731
90 ESP Robert Chatters Toyota Supra 0 0:55.963
9 CSP Jim Cawrse Datsun 1600 0 0:56.223
47 EM John Sheally Cobra 289 0 0:56.505
99 CSP Rob Redanz Mazda Miata 0 0:56.751
44 DM Glenn Bunch 289 Cobra 0 0:56.804
84 ESX Fred Camron Mazda Miata 0 0:57.840
46 CSP Keith Edwards Honda CRX 0 0:58.068
101 CSP James Hattau Mazda Miata 0 0:59.875
42 FSN Jim Robinson 300 ZX Turbo 0 0:59.972
64 CSPL Amy Edwards Honda CRX 0 1:00.109
103 CSPN Richard Castane Mazada RX7 0 1:00.866

[lightningd]

Finished a clean 1st in PAX...MADDD SKIZZZILLLZZZ. hehe. anyways, it was fun. gettin' off to a nice start for the 4 round series. it's gonna be difficult to hold off others for the next 3 events. we'll see what happens. looking to adding a front strut bar and a new custom intake help that effort out.

PS. i just noticed that it put Kienen and his dad's times for the mustang, yet, he was driving the WRX. so chad, if you see this post, ya need to fix it.

[Eric16v]

Originally posted by lightningd
PS. i just noticed that it put Kienen and his dad's times for the mustang, yet, he was driving the WRX. so chad, if you see this post, ya need to fix it.

I think they did that on purpose. I have done it on purpose before driving a stock car that would normally run in DSP just for points in my class.

[98sr20ve]

Originally posted by Eric16v
I think they did that on purpose. I have done it on purpose before driving a stock car that would normally run in DSP just for points in my class.

That does not seem fair to me.

[Eric16v]

Originally posted by 98sr20ve
That does not seem fair to me.

Why not? You are driving a car that is less prepared than the cars in your class and if it was modified to the point where it would be in SP, then it would be in your same class.

[98sr20ve]

The mustang is CP. You can not get a WRX to run in CP no matter what you do to it. It is not a CP car. The WRX was perfect for those conditions. He choose to run the WRX because he knew it would run faster (plus he probably wanted to stay dry and didn't have any rain tires). He did not pick the slower car out of the goodness of his heart. It might meet the letter of the rules as this club chooses to view it but I am confident that if the skys opened up at a national event that they would not let a modified WRX run outside of its class. In the end I really dont care. Its all for fun at this point for me.

[Eric16v]

CP has a tougher PAX than STS or SM, but your right, it is all for fun.

[jetroc0088]

I would agree with Steve.

I think you could pull it off if they were in a stock mustang, but not the WRX.
But I don't really care.
Hahaha

[Slammed Sentra]

damnit they put me in fucking novice

i scratched it off of my sheet, the dude that did tech, keenan (spelling??) said they would go by that and not what i registered as....

[roadRacer]

Originally posted by Slammed Sentra
damnit they put me in fucking novice

i scratched it off of my sheet, the dude that did tech, keenan (spelling??) said they would go by that and not what i registered as....
Yeah it is up to you to class yourself. Email chad or curtis and let them know. They will correct it.