Car Club of Va Tech Meeting

[weavil]

I remember several of you all who go to Tech being interested in joing the Car Club of Va Tech. Well here's the info. Please come and join us it's only $5 for just the Spring Semester. If nothing else atleast come to the meeting and see what it's all about!

"First car club meeting of the semester will be January 23rd, 8pm in Squires 154. That's the same room we had last time, enter Squires from the front entrance and you turn right. Then go down the hall on the left that's before the ticket counter and bank express window. It's down the hall on the left hand side."

Hope to see you all there!

[mpg9999]

Do we have to go to tech ;)

[Viperenvy]

Nope. You can be anyone in the area, vt student or not, own a $100k car or no car at all.

[VTGT]

i'll be there, i think i have 5 bucks in change lying around ;)

[turbo hatchy]

Ill be there

[mpg9999]

Well then, im there, and ill bring the SE-R.

[ElectronSi]

i'll be there

[Goofynick6]

$5? Ehh...ok ok, I guess so, but I won't eat that day. :lol:

I'll try to remember to be there.

Nick

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

meeting has been moved.. it will be held in charlottesville..

[Jeff Taylor]

no it has not. disregard his post.

[IJSaul]

HighPSI TSi Guy (Dave) is just fooking around. We have a the UVA Car Club that we run with around here. Our team challenges your team to a showdown! Gum tape death-a-match! -Ian

[Jeff Taylor]

sounds good to me.

dragstrip?

what kind of cars do you have?

[IJSaul]

The only thing we do right now is drag and drink... We want to start getting into Auto-X like you guys do.

As for cars: 2 Stangs, 2001 M3 SMG, CRX, Ghetto Sled, and my DSM. Too many more to list... What track do you guys usually run at? -Ian

[Jeff Taylor]

cool.

I've been going to natural bridge every once in a while...it's close, and not too expensive. For 1/4mi we've been going to Bristol.

Jeff

[IJSaul]

http://www.cavbooks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1222

[marshall]

ijsaul - i wouldn't mind representing VT in a dsm vs. dsm race :)

marshall

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by IJSaul
The only thing we do right now is drag and drink... We want to start getting into Auto-X like you guys do.

As for cars: 2 Stangs, 2001 M3 SMG, CRX, Ghetto Sled, and my DSM. Too many more to list... What track do you guys usually run at? -Ian

you forgot my DSMs.. we should get adam too.. and also DJ's colt ;)

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by marshall
ijsaul - i wouldn't mind representing VT in a dsm vs. dsm race :)

marshall

what about chris? hmm... i'll race that kid with the NT using my NT ;)

[Viperenvy]

The idea of a JMU vs VT vs UVA car club matchup at natural bridge has potential maybe. Could probably set up a seperated set of runs there if we get it arranged in time. Have to lay some ground rules of course like an actual member of the club and not a friend of a friend sorta thing or borrowing someone's car that isn't in the club. Also have to figure out would the fastest time of whatever club decides who wins or do a showdown of the top three, etc, etc. Such an event would probably actually gain a lot of exposure and interest for each car club and could be used as an opportunity to get alumni donations for each club. Come on we all know how some rich alumni will throw money to anything associated with their school. By the way, the car club of virginia tech is HIGHLY interested in such a "showdown" for this spring semester. Natural bridge might be the best bet since it is somewhat closer to JMU and UVA. Bristol would be nice but thats a pretty big trip for you UVA and JMU guys unless you didn't mind. The track and pit areas at Bristol are VERY nice compared to natural bridge but it would probably be easier to get a seperated set of runs for a club showdown at NB.

[leloz]

When I was president of the UVA car club (August 2000-May 2002), it was a little more organized and there were planned meetings almost every week. I am sure this semester will be more organized and maybe some more community service events will be held along with hands on/lecture sessions. We have held information sessions on everything from the basics of the engine, suspension systems, car stereo equipment, etc. There are plenty of knowlegable people in the UVA car club. In the past we have drag raced at MIR, the Richmond Dragway, and Sumerduck. We tried to meet up with MM (JMU) a couple times, but no luck in them showing up. The VT club should come down one of the Richmond Dragway events starting in March.
Lataz,
Lelo

[weavil]

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
you forgot my DSMs.. we should get adam too.. and also DJ's colt ;)

Are you talking about the White Colt w/the 4G63 in it? I had seen that one @ Eastside. Those swaps 0wn. I looked forever for a decently prices Colt GT or Mirage Turbo to do the swap. Though some how I ended up w/another fuggin :barf: Neon.

[Rguy]

MM (JMU) wont show up at any drag event, it would take a lot to get them to come out (free beer etc). I think they only imported around 1600 of the 1.6L(4g61t) Colt GT/mirage turbo, no wonder you had a hard time finding one! My friend has one, sweet ass little car. Great for a sleeper.

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by weavil
Are you talking about the White Colt w/the 4G63 in it? I had seen that one @ Eastside. Those swaps 0wn. I looked forever for a decently prices Colt GT or Mirage Turbo to do the swap. Though some how I ended up w/another fuggin :barf: Neon.

if you're talkin about this one http://www.etmotorsports.com/assets/images/Colt_Left_Side_Med_Size.jpg that's bill's.. it has a 4g61.. DJ has one basicly jsut like it also..

i'm a big fan of the mighty max swap as well, i eventually plan to do that one for a nice beater truck

[16g-95gsx]

Sounds sweet, I can already see my ass is being pulled into this so I guess I have no choice in this matter. Sounds like it'll be fun. Hope you UVA DSM's pull your act together, I may just have a few tricks up my sleeve by then and I'm sure Marshall will do the same. :)

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by marshall
ijsaul - i wouldn't mind representing VT in a dsm vs. dsm race :)

marshall

Careful, if Ian can get his act together and a few more good parts on and some fuel he just may be a good contendor, specially if you dont spray.

[Jeff Taylor]

I think that just between Chris and Marshall, UVA will get destroyed.

[marshall]

why wouldn't i spray? :confused:

[Jeff Taylor]

Spraying is CHEATING! ....
Turbo's are cheating! ....
Raising your compression is cheating! ....
Intakes are cheating! ....


Nitrous, just like a turbo, is part of the engine setup. I wouldn't disconnect my turbo's wastegate when racing someone...so why would someone not spray? :confused:

Ahhh fuckit! :beer:

[leloz]

We need to do this 1/4 mile style. Some of our turbocharged vehicles do not even warm up in the 1/8th mile

;)

Richmond Dragway or VMP!

[turbo hatchy]

Originally posted by leloz
We need to do this 1/4 mile style. Some of our turbocharged vehicles do not even warm up in the 1/8th mile

;)

Richmond Dragway or VMP!

I would liek that too...it would be better 1/4 mile...Where are the fast hondas?

[IJSaul]

Since most of our turbo vehicles are also AWD we usually do really damned well in the 1/8th. I am up for either one personally. As for N2O use, that may give you the win but I don't consider it bad, its just not what I do. I am building the car for 93 octane and a full street setup, no real interest in what it "could" do with the seats out, 110 octane, and a shot of nitrous. But be that as it may, I will give the best run I can for the honor of my car club members and probably do 110 octane for this event. -Ian

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by 16g-95gsx
Careful, if Ian can get his act together and a few more good parts on and some fuel he just may be a good contendor, specially if you dont spray.

how bout a new rule: pump gas only :D

then we'll see who comes out ahead :p

you can't compare your times to me and Ian. you ran race gas. we run pump only.

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by turbo hatchy
Where are the fast hondas?

they exist? :p

[IJSaul]

Originally posted by turbo hatchy
Where are the fast hondas?

I don't know... Where are they?

J/K -Ian

[turbo hatchy]

Yep they exist right here. I meant other than me their seems to be no fast hondas on this site. I guess I will race the DSMs

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by marshall
why wouldn't i spray? :confused:

Cause Dave is REALLY picky about what he considers a street car. I know he'd find some excuse just as I would if I lost to ya and you were spraying. I know he'll want us to run with 93oct and no nitrous before he'll admit our times as being officially the faster street car. O well. IMO if everyone uses 116oct etc then why not go ahead and use it? Its so much more fun using it and if the playing field is leveled then it isnt cheating :)

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
how bout a new rule: pump gas only :D

then we'll see who comes out ahead :p

you can't compare your times to me and Ian. you ran race gas. we run pump only.

I ran an 8.3 in 85* humid heat this past summer in the 1/8th all on 93oct. Marshall ran what? and 8.1 without nitrous? I dont know what octane you used, I think it was 100 if I remember right. Anyway, I know either one of us at this very moment would obviously beat both of ya and you know it. Now Ian's car I give major major respect as I told you because I know the potential that car has to be great, but as of right now thats all it is, just potential. The EMS still isnt in, still running stock injectors, still pushing stock turbo etc. Like I said, get everything on and tuned and maybe a few more parts and I think Marshall might just have some competition if Ian gets the act together. As for me, we'll see, as I said perhaps I'll have a few tricks up my sleeve.

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by turbo hatchy
Yep they exist right here. I meant other than me their seems to be no fast hondas on this site. I guess I will race the DSMs

You gonna ditch those steelies? Street tires? :)

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

i say race it as you drive it every day if you want it to be a street car. it's not a street car if you're running better than pump gas, unless you run 100 or whatever EVERY DAY. nitrous i won't bitch about, as that is fully streetable, while not legal, it is easily used on the street, and it's on your car every day, just like the rest of the car. i personally will refuse to race anything on slicks unless it's the same weight or heavier. slicks are not street tires, so you are not a street car when you run slicks.

that is my opinion, take it as you will, but it makes perfect sense to me. if anyone wants to run slicks by all means go ahead. but you're going to also add bricks in the trunk until it's the same weight as my car.

[marshall]

preparing for rant mode...

i get so annoyed when people call (or insinuate) things like nitrous and race gas are cheating. that makes no sense. what if i pulled the turbo off my car and then ran only nitrous, would it still be cheating? what if i ran race gas all the time? then would i have to drain my tank at the track and put in 93?

after switching from hondas to dsms a few years ago, the first thing i noticed was that everyone wanted to have the fastest dsm with a stock turbo, stock IC, stock injectors, on pump gas, blah blah blah. knowing full well they could go faster if they did things differently. it seems like people aren't into going fast as much as being known as the "fastest FWD 2G with stock downpipe and 3 people and a pack gummi worms in the car" or similar type scenarios...

if anyone wants to race me at the track, they can be absolutely sure that i'm going to be running a lot of boost, a lot of nitrous, and a lot of 110 octane.

so chris, what's the big secret? if it's anything less than a 60-1/T4 i'm going to be quite disappointed.

marshall

[Jeff Taylor]

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy

that is my opinion, take it as you will, but it makes perfect sense to me. if anyone wants to run slicks by all means go ahead. but you're going to also add bricks in the trunk until it's the same weight as my car.


Boo hoo hoo...so you want to make everyone's car equal, huh? What fun would that be. If I can get ahold of slicks, or drag radials for the event, I am going to use them. You will still be pulling better 60's than me, so why does it matter?

Hey, tell you what! Let's all buy brand new Chevy Cavaliers and race them at the track, so that we are allll equal!

Boy I can't wait to whoop your ass! :barf:

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by marshall
preparing for rant mode...

i get so annoyed when people call (or insinuate) things like nitrous and race gas are cheating. that makes no sense. what if i pulled the turbo off my car and then ran only nitrous, would it still be cheating? what if i ran race gas all the time? then would i have to drain my tank at the track and put in 93?

after switching from hondas to dsms a few years ago, the first thing i noticed was that everyone wanted to have the fastest dsm with a stock turbo, stock IC, stock injectors, on pump gas, blah blah blah. knowing full well they could go faster if they did things differently. it seems like people aren't into going fast as much as being known as the "fastest FWD 2G with stock downpipe and 3 people and a pack gummi worms in the car" or similar type scenarios...

if anyone wants to race me at the track, they can be absolutely sure that i'm going to be running a lot of boost, a lot of nitrous, and a lot of 110 octane.

so chris, what's the big secret? if it's anything less than a 60-1/T4 i'm going to be quite disappointed.

marshall

you seem to misunderstand my point. people like you compare your cars to everyone elses STREET car and call yourselves superior because you ran a faster time on race gas. supra worshippers are particularly bad about it. "oh look at me i dynoed a milion hp on 500,000 octane, my car is FAST, yo :rolleyes: "

my point is this: if your car is a TRACK car than do whatever the hell you want. but if it's a daily driver, drive it at the track the way you drive it on the street, or i will have no respect for it as a "street car", however, i will still have plenty of respect for it as a "track car". yes, race gas is fun. yes, i might use it sometime eventually jsut for the hell of it, but i will NOT go around flashing the timeslip saying my car is that fast, because it is NOT that fast normally. it is normally as fast as it can go on pump gas. i am not trying to hate on you or your car i am trying to get my point across. i clearly stated before i didn't have a problem with nitrous either.

you also say "knowing full well they could go faster if they did things differently". way to go bench racer. i don't need interior, because my car can go faster without it. i'll run race gas at the track so my timeslip misrepresents my car's street-driven capabilities and insult everything that is slower because they don't have the money to buy nice t3/t4 setups and a shitload of racegas like me. i am taking my 14b as far as it will go before upgrading because i'm not retarded. lazy bitches upgrade their turbo instead of tuning, or to make up for poor tuning ability. not to mention i don't like to not have money.

i am done with my rant. if you want to insult people for not bowing down to your car, go ahead. your car is faster than mine. but i don't care. your car is a track car, mine is a street car.

i used to liek your car, but now i'm having second thoughts

chris at least you should see where i'm coming from, since you are always so concerned with going fast without losing the luxury..

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by Jeff Taylor
Boo hoo hoo...so you want to make everyone's car equal, huh? What fun would that be. If I can get ahold of slicks, or drag radials for the event, I am going to use them. You will still be pulling better 60's than me, so why does it matter?

Hey, tell you what! Let's all buy brand new Chevy Cavaliers and race them at the track, so that we are allll equal!

Boy I can't wait to whoop your ass! :barf:

i'll be sure to mount a camera aimed at my rearview mirror so you can get a nice video of it :p

[marshall]

my T3/T4 'setup' cost me about 300 dollars. big money there.

i took a small 16g/6cm combo to 8.10 (translates to mid/low 12's) that took countless hours of logging - on the street no less.

anyways, we have different views.

marshall

[16g-95gsx]

Hahaha, ladies ladies please... :)

Naw nothing like that Marshall, I'm still having some seriously decisions going on in my head right now and I'm sure Dave knows about them. Everyday there is a little battle going on in my head about what to do. Anyway, I'm prob gonna a little more, nothing major like a turbo upgrade, but hopefully I wish to be able to pull into the 7's. That would be my goal anyway, but I dont know the elevation at natural bridge, summerduck is around 100ft asl I think.

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by marshall
my T3/T4 'setup' cost me about 300 dollars. big money there.

i took a small 16g/6cm combo to 8.10 (translates to mid/low 12's) that took countless hours of logging - on the street no less.

anyways, we have different views.

marshall

8.1 should translate to maybe a 12.5, not a low 12.

O, and for you dave, I just may leave in my interior, amp, etc :).

[Jeff Taylor]

16G - What are you going to do? You've been hinting around about it for the past month. Do you want us to pry it out of you?

Water injection?
Propane injection? (no...because you hate nitrous)
remove weight?

[turbo hatchy]

Yah steelies wont be on there i will have my "drag radials"

[weavil]

Well if you're want street times, then make sure you go to a track that is pure pavement w/no VHT or other chemicals to aid traction.

Like others I'm not really sure what the big deal about adding different stuff @ the track is. I'm sure most of these guys would run w/o cats+mufflers (well Jeff is the exception :p ), w/drag radials, or on race gas if it was feasible/legal on the street.

[V8BRICK]

Jesus, a STREET CAR is a car that is registered and insured to drive on roadways in our wonderful commonwealth of Virginia, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES!

HighPSI, so you have no respect for someone who runs higher octane at the track or swaps out radials for slicks, why? It's a fucking TIMESLIP, you get them at DRAG STRIPS, not at the hardees drive-through at the end of a road you just street raced on. So what a guy flashes a nice timeslip on the street, ask him about his car, what he was running, that is what makes life interesting, CAR ENTHUSIAM. Don't scoff at him because he's sportin' scuffed up Tim's or because his timeslip is decent and he wants to empty your wallet on the street.

You have to gauge what you think that guy with the low timeslip will run on street tires and 93 (or is he running 93?), it's all part of the game of street racing and gambling.

All of you whip your Daimler Star Manmeats out on the table and have a jerkoff contest, not lotion though, that's cheating.

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by Jeff Taylor
16G - What are you going to do? You've been hinting around about it for the past month. Do you want us to pry it out of you?

Water injection?
Propane injection? (no...because you hate nitrous)
remove weight?

NO, I havent said a word about anything I'm doing, I just said that maybe by the time this track event happens I might have some new things, enough to pull into the 7's, not mid or low, but at least high 7's. I'd be happy with that.

[Jeff Taylor]

7's? I'd be more than happy with that too!

Just trying to pry your secrets from ya. :)

Hey, I'd like to do a second/third gear pull next to your car again soon... I changed a few things and can't tell if it made a difference. I need a dyno, damnit.

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by V8BRICK
Jesus, a STREET CAR is a car that is registered and insured to drive on roadways in our wonderful commonwealth of Virginia, THAT'S ALL IT TAKES!

HighPSI, so you have no respect for someone who runs higher octane at the track or swaps out radials for slicks, why? It's a fucking TIMESLIP, you get them at DRAG STRIPS, not at the hardees drive-through at the end of a road you just street raced on. So what a guy flashes a nice timeslip on the street, ask him about his car, what he was running, that is what makes life interesting, CAR ENTHUSIAM. Don't scoff at him because he's sportin' scuffed up Tim's or because his timeslip is decent and he wants to empty your wallet on the street.

You have to gauge what you think that guy with the low timeslip will run on street tires and 93 (or is he running 93?), it's all part of the game of street racing and gambling.

ok, i would respond to that, but i already covered all of that earlier. if you had actually read everything i said you would know that that is completely not the case at all and you jsut wasted bandwidth with that post.

[87GTSJUSTIN]

Was this forum about a meeting? And I plan to strip a lot of shit out of my car, but that's only because I'm taking any money I would put into mods to pay the thing off as fast as possible, and I want to have a decent time for having a stock car. Might even run race gas and advance timing, but who knows? Fast is fast, so who cares how they get there? Would you bitch at a Ligenfelter Corvette for busting into 9's because they were running 110 octane fuel and claiming it as a street car?
.02

[turbo hatchy]

I agree with the run what you brung...as long as you have tags and an inspection. No matter what gas no matter what tire (as long as its not a true slick) no matter what boost no matter what nitrious...come on now you all

[Wagz]

Originally posted by turbo hatchy
I agree with the run what you brung...as long as you have tags and an inspection. No matter what gas no matter what tire (as long as its not a true slick) no matter what boost no matter what nitrious...come on now you all

my z is registered in FL where it requires no inspection ;)

[turbo hatchy]

Thats fine...I consider my car a street car, its inpected but def not by the best state inspectors haha

[IJSaul]

Originally posted by 87GTSJUSTIN
Would you bitch at a Ligenfelter Corvette for busting into 9's because they were running 110 octane fuel and claiming it as a street car?
.02

Yes.

[marshall]

what is the difference between running 100 octane fuel to deter high cylinder pressures and building a forged motor to withstand high cylinder pressures?

marshall

[IJSaul]

Exactly as HighPSI (Dave) said, however you run it on the street is the only number I want to hear thrown around. When I drive up, stage, run a 12.0 and drive her home the exact way she came then that is having a fast street car. If I drive around with 100 Oct in the tank daily, and make a run down the track with that then that too is a STREET CAR. The whole tags/inspection thing is bunk. Run what you brung, not "trick it out once you get there to get the most BS time slip ever and then quote it all the time". The point about going to a track without VHT is valid, unfortunately I haven't found any like that so I make do.

I quote a pass like this: 1.9 60' 13.7 @ 100 (18 PSI/93 Oct)
And if I did it the way I'm describing: 12.X @ 10X (no mention of 110-116, stripped interior for the run, or drag slicks)

-Ian

[IJSaul]

Originally posted by marshall
what is the difference between running 100 octane fuel to deter high cylinder pressures and building a forged motor to withstand high cylinder pressures?

marshall

Nothing, as long as you don't quote a time slip pass with 100 oct as your street car, unless of course you run 100 octane all the time. If you drive a car on the street with built internals then that is how it is every day. If people swapped engines like they swap gas and quote the same times then that wouldn't be quite right would it? -Ian

[Goofynick6]

The engine and ECU in my car right now was built to run on 110 octane in Japan

:shrug:

I'll be running 93 octane with maybe a little octane booster(nothing big). I'm actually going to be at a disadvantage, unless I dump in some nice race gas(doubt it).

Either way, I have to agree with the last comment by Turbo hatchy, run what you have brung and make sure it has legal plates on it. I'll be removing my glove box and passenger seat, that is not what I normally do on the street, but it makes me faster for the track, so why not?

What is the point of going to the track? See how fast your car is, and that's what I plan to do.

Nick

[V8BRICK]

Everyone used to whine about a car being street LEGAL, not about whether the owner drives it everyday on the street. When did the rules change? What fuel you use where has NOTHING to do with it.

High, I understand your point that people that run race gas on the track and then come flailing the slip on the street. If the guy ran a 13.1 on pump gas, then ran a 12.9 on race gas, it is STILL a 12 second car and remains a 12 second car on the street because that was his BEST time and his car's best time.

You guys are really making it more difficult than it is, we're not adjusting times for slicks, putting bricks in people's trunks. Stick to the terminology set by our wise ancestors, STREET LEGAL.

Here's an example of such a case at a legally sanctioned event.

Natural Bridge import 4 cylinder STREET Fights: Any street car can enter, although the officials let two trailered built neons that were stripped and on slicks running nitrous compete against the street cars. The cars were definately not STREET LEGAL. We all didn't talk too much shit until it came down to the final race between the neon and marshall's talon. Neon lost and we advised them to take their trailored street legal cars and leave in a polite alcohol induced way.

I see where you're coming from High, but I think the rules don't need to be rewritten yet. There is a trade-off as to the comfort level you want to maintain while driving your car everyday, some people have a need for speed that will leave their car radio/heat and a/c-less and it's still their everyday driven street car. That doesn't mean you can add weight to their car because you like music and heat. I wouldn't make you disconnect your rear driveshaft before I race you, all wheel drive launches amaze me! But it would amaze me more to see a FWD on drag radials out launch an AWD talon.


:beer:

[20psi 240sx]

not to nit-pick, but one of those neons had n20, the other was all motor. the all motor did pretty good, but it did have slicks and was stripped.
btw, i had the fastest mph of the day! what now!
so you are saying i can't run with a helmet on, because thats not how i race at the street? what about the vt car club members that don't have street cars, but only race cars like what i'm gonna ran when this goes down? i feel like just cause i don't have a street car, i can't be part of this! i go to tech and have 2 forms of transportation....a mountain bike, and a 520ci blown alcohol nova with 24" wide slicks. if your car club doesn't have a race car, you better build one and quik!
shaun
i'm a compolsive liar and poor speller.

[leloz]

It is all about your taste. I could build a car for straight drag racing but I do not have the time or money for that at the moment. Most of us want a car that can perform well at drag racing, autoX, and SCCA GT, not just point and shoot. I commend your club's cars and amazing times... you do have us out gunned in the drag racing category (from the numbers I have seen) but let's talk autoX or endurance GT ;).
and let's do 1/4 mile.. 1/8 mile is too short for any real fun

[16g-95gsx]

Japan doesnt use the same octane rating scales we use. Their octane ratings are higher therefore when here the same gas would have a much less rated octane.

[IJSaul]

Originally posted by V8BRICK
High, I understand your point that people that run race gas on the track and then come flailing the slip on the street. If the guy ran a 13.1 on pump gas, then ran a 12.9 on race gas, it is STILL a 12 second car and remains a 12 second car on the street because that was his BEST time and his car's best time.


Everything else I agree with, except that statement. It is a 12 second car at the track, and a 13 second car if it rolls up to me asking for some on the street. Just as long as the 12 is qualified with the rest of the info then yes it is a 12 second car.


Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
so you are saying i can't run with a helmet on, because thats not how i race at the street? what about the vt car club members that don't have street cars, but only race cars like what i'm gonna ran when this goes down?
shaun
i'm a compolsive liar and poor speller.

I wear my helmet every day, you never know what is going to happen out there.... Just kidding. I think a helmet falls into a slightly different category of "mod" as opposed to octane and engines. Run what you got in my opinion, I just wanted to explain my position on the whole time slip thing for a street car.

Hell like I said above I will probably end up going race gas for this thing too, but when I quote my cars BEST time it will only be what the daily driven setup can do.

-Ian

[V8BRICK]

Originally posted by 16g-95gsx
Japan doesnt use the same octane rating scales we use. Their octane ratings are higher therefore when here the same gas would have a much less rated octane.

You're right they don't, but their 100 RON translated to our method in the U.S. is 95 R+M/2.

So our 93 octane here would be rated 98 in Japan, two points below their high dollar sweet stuff.

With our winter mixes now though, all bets are off.

[Rguy]

"but let's talk autoX or endurance GT"


Ill take over here boys. yes, lets talk autoX or road racing. What do you guys have in terms of that racing?

[leloz]

I thought my post went over looked. Just to name a few:
1989 Porsche 944 S-2
1992 Camaro Z28, former SCCA champion
1991 VW Jetta GLI
2002 BMW M3
Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
AWD Talon's
my B5.5 once my suspension is installed
and some more, forgive me if I forgot to mention your car:cool:

what do you drive?

[IJSaul]

Dont forget the 3rd Gen RX-7 R2... -Ian

[weavil]

Originally posted by V8BRICK
Natural Bridge import 4 cylinder STREET Fights: Any street car can enter, although the officials let two trailered built neons that were stripped and on slicks running nitrous compete against the street cars. The cars were definately not STREET LEGAL. We all didn't talk too much shit until it came down to the final race between the neon and marshall's talon. Neon lost and we advised them to take their trailored street legal cars and leave in a polite alcohol induced way.


Clay's Neon was an all motor 2.0 DOHC and was daily driven. Plus others were running nitrous.

[Rguy]

Im drive an ITR. Nice collection. Id love to meet up with them at VIR or SP one day..

[leloz]

Integras make nice track cars.. good stuff. I just hate the wear AutoX puts on my tires and brakes $$$$$$$$

[V8BRICK]

Originally posted by weavil
Clay's Neon was an all motor 2.0 DOHC and was daily driven. Plus others were running nitrous.

Sorry, I guess I assumed that the other neon was running nitrous as well, it broke something and only ran once I think, missed qualifying.

Is Clay's the Blackdog Motorsports car or was it the one running nitrous?

The neon running nitrous was everything short of a tube frame chassis, you couldn't strip any more weight off it. It was an obvious track car, never intended for the street, but damn fast none the less.

I'll run for tech in an auto-x or track event, prefer auto-x though, it's cheaper. I should have new wheels and tires sportin' a wider stance by spring or so. Just need to find someone in my class...

[weavil]

Yea, Clay was the Blackdog Motorsports car (clay is the one who owns/runs Blackdog, but he was letting Nick, a guy who used to work there drive his car).

Lucas was the one w/the 2.4 Neon w/nitrous. And it's definitely not intended for the street.

[marshall]

so, does clay pull those wheelie bars off when he daily drives the car? :)

i talked to lucas last weekend, said he's building a Pro FWD neon, 2.4 block punched to 2.6, individual TB's, standalone...sounds like it's going to be a very cool car.

marshall

[weavil]

haha, yea those wheelie bars were a bit much. :p

Yea I've heard the stories I can't wait till he gets it done. He was pulling mid-high 8s w/very few bolts on the 2.4, I can't wait to see it built.

[MBuck951]

Originally posted by leloz
I thought my post went over looked. Just to name a few:
1989 Porsche 944 S-2
1992 Camaro Z28, former SCCA champion
1991 VW Jetta GLI
2002 BMW M3
Subaru Impreza 2.5 RS
AWD Talon's
my B5.5 once my suspension is installed
and some more, forgive me if I forgot to mention your car:cool:

what do you drive?


The only driving events I do anymore are DE's with the PCA. Any idea on the lap times anybody runs at VIR(full course) or Summit? I'm buying a hotlap timer for this season so I can track my progess becaues the PCA isn't allowed to time DE's. AFAIK, of that list, only the M3 would worry me . . . less so if he is on street tires! My turbo was bone stock last year, but I've done some stuff over the winter here. First track days this year are 3/15-16 at Summit hopefully

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

we hope to have our club project finished by time for the UVA/Tech shootout..

http://www.people.virginia.edu/~dtb4v/images/bmw1.jpg

[Cyberdemon]

Holy club project! And I remember when we got to take apart an 82' Chevy in Auto shop we thought we were hardcore...

[distruner]

Ok, not that we need the help or anything but any of you guys from Tech need parts i can get most anything at cost. Just let me know what you need. I don't care what those other schools bring to the tracks I know we can take them. If they get a project car does that mean we get to use the Formula 1 car. Just an idea.

[leloz]

Originally posted by MBuck951
The only driving events I do anymore are DE's with the PCA. Any idea on the lap times anybody runs at VIR(full course) or Summit? I'm buying a hotlap timer for this season so I can track my progess becaues the PCA isn't allowed to time DE's. AFAIK, of that list, only the M3 would worry me . . . less so if he is on street tires! My turbo was bone stock last year, but I've done some stuff over the winter here. First track days this year are 3/15-16 at Summit hopefully

haha, you wouldn't let my Passat worry you?;) Just playin. I know your 50/50 is hard to beat any day. I will ask my Dad what he ran in the S2.. but that was a long time ago. I look forward to our clubs getting together.

[turbo hatchy]

The posting about street/track times has kinda died down a bit but some of you make sense others dont. When you go to the track you want the best time. When I go tot he track I run more boost of course and I run slicks. If I go to race you on the street I will have drag radials and likley some more boost and the c16 to go along with it so I dont detonate. I know some of you are very unfamiliar with the sanctioing bodies of import racing so you dont really understand totally what a street car is. Check out NDRA's site IDRC or IMSTAR or Battle of the Imports. When you got to the track prep your car to go faster think about it. Why do you add parts to ur car to begin with, to go faster right. I would much rather throw slicks on my car and run my car and be hauling ass down the track then to be loosing traction and hitting the wall.

[Rguy]

"When you go to the track you want the best time."

*salutes captain O*

[IJSaul]

You see we are just disagreeing about the end time slip that is important to us. I understand that you want the no holds barred best time you can get, if that means running hi oct gas/slicks/weight reduction that you don't have everyday then that is fine for you. I want to look at my car every morning and know that exactly as it sits it runs a 12.X. I am not interested in how fast the car could go, I want to know how fast it is. Just a difference of opinion which we are not going to agree on. -Ian

[marshall]

i think it comes down the where you want to race, if racing on the street is important to you, then i agree with ian. it is completely pointless to slick/boost/spray/weight reduce/octane increase your car at the track to get a 13.50 then go out the next night with your normal low 14's setup and challenge an LS1 camaro at a stoplight...

but, i think racing at the track is a lot more fun, so my car is built accordingly.

marshall

[turbo hatchy]

Exactly...If I am racing you on the street, Ill have drag radials an maybe a little extra boost that I dont always use just going to the store. If I am racing you at the track I will have c16 in my tank, slicks on, and dropped exhaust. Thats just my opinion. If I wanted to I could go to the track and run radials and run 12's but I would rather run slicks, its a lot faster and more fun, isnt that what its all about.

[Rguy]

"If I am racing you on the street, Ill have drag radials an maybe a little extra boost that I dont always use just going to the store."

Excellent, i want to race you...but before i do i want to be able to install my turbo and N20 setup...i also want to be able to install my 14" drag rims and radials and strip my car and drop my exhaust.

Dude, from the pics i have seen, you run 175 width tires with steelies on the street. If you're going to race someone on the street you should run those tires and wheels too. people on this board street race (:() with the tires and rims they run everyday, you should too.

Rguy, who think street racing is about as dumb as fucking ur sister.

[turbo hatchy]

Originally posted by Rguy
"If I am racing you on the street, Ill have drag radials an maybe a little extra boost that I dont always use just going to the store."

Excellent, i want to race you...but before i do i want to be able to install my turbo and N20 setup...i also want to be able to install my 14" drag rims and radials and strip my car and drop my exhaust.

Dude, from the pics i have seen, you run 175 width tires with steelies on the street. If you're going to race someone on the street you should run those tires and wheels too. people on this board street race (:() with the tires and rims they run everyday, you should too.

Rguy, who think street racing is about as dumb as fucking ur sister.

You are fucking stupid as shit. Drag radials last about 6000 miles for me. I cant afford to run them everyday. Not to mention they get fucked up like shit in the salt and shit on the roads from snow. You are totally out of line saying I should race people on the street with steelies. Any other time of the year I would have them on my car. I will race with the steelies tho if it means that much to you, you wanna race I will give you 5 cars and the break on steelies, you name the wager. Dont talk shit. If it means that much to you I will put my drag radials on now, so that will be what my car is on the street. My car is a daily driver, I have the steelies on it to get around, if I am to have a setup race with someone I am gonna use my drag radials. Wheels and tires are quite a bit different then NX and a turbo kit. Not to mention you dont have those..I have the Wheels. Some of you all are just some jealous motherfuckers.

[rhombus]

I would also like to add that drag radials dont take well to the high tire temps of highway driving.

Eric

[marshall]

I would also like to add that I agree with turbo hatch more and more every day.

Marshall

[rhombus]

Yes, Turbo hatchy started out on the cocky side of my meter, but he is now moving to the better end of the spectrum.

I know the feeling about workin hard over a car and thinking alot of it. I fixed that problem though when I bought my S13.

Look forward to meeting on Saterday.

Eric

[turbo hatchy]

Thanks guys...Yah saturday will be great finally get to put faces and cars to screen names.

[20psi 240sx]

eric said you were on his cock side...so be careful saturday, maybe where a chasity belt or something....
j/k my s13 brother! when did you join rhombus?
shaun

[rhombus]

I use to be on here along time ago, but then the server lost all the screen names. I just recently re-registered. But I was keepin up with all the trash the whole time.

Eric

[JKim]

Originally posted by turbo hatchy
You are fucking stupid as shit. Drag radials last about 6000 miles for me. I cant afford to run them everyday. Not to mention they get fucked up like shit in the salt and shit on the roads from snow. You are totally out of line saying I should race people on the street with steelies. Any other time of the year I would have them on my car. I will race with the steelies tho if it means that much to you, you wanna race I will give you 5 cars and the break on steelies, you name the wager. Dont talk shit. If it means that much to you I will put my drag radials on now, so that will be what my car is on the street. My car is a daily driver, I have the steelies on it to get around, if I am to have a setup race with someone I am gonna use my drag radials. Wheels and tires are quite a bit different then NX and a turbo kit. Not to mention you dont have those..I have the Wheels. Some of you all are just some jealous motherfuckers.


Rguy, uve been called out by Parknasty, Rhombus, VT Spec V, and now Turbo Hatchy.


FutureProspect thinks Rguy should stop getting into trouble before he gets himself 0wn3d by every car at Tech.

[Viperenvy]

In other news don't forget the car club of virginia tech's meeting today (Thursday). Squires room 154, will be talking about the car show and the very good news from Natural Bridge pertaining to the UVA vs VT idea. See you all there!!

:hi:

[leloz]

I think you mean UVA vs. VT at the Richmond Dragway ;)..... come on, lets do 1/4 mile!!!:beer:

plus you can't beat $9.00 all you can run!

[Viperenvy]

Natural Bridge is literally in the middle of the two schools. Plus you get way more runs than Richmond and that is a 240 mile trip one way for us. We will do Richmond this semester and get the same hotel deal we did before. Natural Bridge has offered to do something for us VMP never would. Details to come probably next week.

[leloz]

As long as my Passat gets to run your Intrepid ;) Battle of the 4 doors..:eek:

[JKim]

Originally posted by leloz
As long as my Passat gets to run your Intrepid ;) Battle of the 4 doors..:eek:

can i be apart of this 4 door battle?

[leloz]

sweet... this will be battle of the turbocharged 4 doors!

[V8BRICK]

Originally posted by leloz
sweet... this will be battle of the turbocharged 4 doors!

C-C-C-Can I play too?

[leloz]

this just keeps getting better and better! What kind of mods do you have on your Volvo? My friend has a chipped '96 850 Turbo, he is browsing swedespeed all the time.

[V8BRICK]

Originally posted by leloz
this just keeps getting better and better! What kind of mods do you have on your Volvo? My friend has a chipped '96 850 Turbo, he is browsing swedespeed all the time.

It's still kinda new to me, all I've done so far is put a open element air filter with an aluminum block off box to keep the heated air out. It didn't make any performance difference, you can just hear the bypass valve a lot more.

Going to fab a 3" downpipe sometime warmer with marshall's help.

[leloz]

There is tons of stuff you can do for your car. Mechanically all I have installed is a Neuspeed short shift kit. I do have a GIAC chip, but I am waiting till I find a spare ECU so I can avoid voiding my warranty. For suspension, I have the Eibach pro kit and dampers sitting in my living room. I sold my old rims and tires for original Audi Forged alloy RS4 wheels and Kumho Ecsta Supra tires. The wheels are very light weight and $$$ (the reason I bought cheap tires). I am waiting till it gets warmer to install the suspension components. For this summer I want to convert to the TT DP, TT DV, and TT exhaust. If only money fell from the sky. No powerhouse here, just all fun with my daily driver.

[V8BRICK]

Awesome, you have a nice car, like the wheels. I plan to do a chip and full 3" exhaust. With the chip and exhaust I should be around 270hp at the wheels.

Before I bought the S70, I was seriously looking at an Audi wagon, red with black leather, 5 speed and it had the 1.8 liter turbo engine.

I've also added an a-pillar pod and vdo boost gauge and an IPD poly to motor mount. The 70 series don't come with any type of boost gauge :mad:

[marshall]

eli - hopefully saturday we'll be able to at least get started on your dp/exhaust...

[Viperenvy]

Just like to thank everyone for coming to the first meeting tonight. Saw a lot of new faces and we now have a "hookup" at the dragva forums. Did I mention wrx's rule? I love them i love them i love them, whoever owns one is a pimp. :hi:

In other notes, marshall you guys going to be working on that thing in the morning/afternoon? If so I might stop by while I'm at "work." Hehe, gotta love I don't have to be anywhere at anytime and get paid for it. Fear the government awd astro!!!

[Goofynick6]

Originally posted by Viperenvy
Just like to thank everyone for coming to the first meeting tonight. Saw a lot of new faces and we now have a "hookup" at the dragva forums. Did I mention wrx's rule? I love them i love them i love them, whoever owns one is a pimp. :hi:

In other notes, marshall you guys going to be working on that thing in the morning/afternoon? If so I might stop by while I'm at "work." Hehe, gotta love I don't have to be anywhere at anytime and get paid for it. Fear the government awd astro!!!

Do I have to notify my supervisor Cory? j/k

Thanks for setting up the meeting and the cookies.

Nick

[Viperenvy]

Actually Nick, the supervisors know, heck I'm right over where one of them live when I go to eli's and all with it. Unlike some of the others there nick I do my job and don't slack off or disappear. Plus I'm closer to campus this way. :cool:

[JKim]

Thanks for the Informative Meeting. Hope to contribute as much as i can.

[ElectronSi]

i dont know if im the only one that has noticed this, but it seems to be that the people bitching the most about what you can and can not run at Natural Bridge at the UVA v. Tech competition are FROM uva. i say, run what you brung. if u can bring your drag radials, octane booster, more boost, stripped interior, both bottles of NAAWWSSS, etc with you to the track, you can run it. this isnt about which team has the fastest cars with a street setup, its about which team has the fastest cars AT Natural Bridge. i think UVA is gettin a little nervous about their chances, since Tech > UVA. Always.

Electron
Rockin the TORK LES wonder.

[IJSaul]

You are a joke. I never stated anything about "don't bring a car with xxx cause that's not fair....". All Dave and I were saying is what numbers we like to hear quoted off for a STREET CAR. UVA will win this one hands down. If everything goes right our slowest car will be a ~13.7 and our fastest a mid to high 12. If that is not good enough to win this then it just isn't, no need to start arguing about what kind of setups can be run.

I am not affiliated with UVA or any other college besides my involvement with UVA CC. -Ian

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by ElectronSi
if u can bring your drag radials, octane booster, more boost, stripped interior

shit! now i know what's wrong! i left all my boost at home! :rolleyes:

[leloz]

looks like I am going to have to leave the spare tire out of this one... hahah :rolleyes: I look forward to this.

[ElectronSi]

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
shit! now i know what's wrong! i left all my boost at home! :rolleyes:

is that your car on the back of that tow truck? thought so :rolleyes:

[Viperenvy]

The details for the UVA vs VT car club are about 90% done. I will be posting details on this forum and the uva forum this week about the format and other specifics.

[marshall]

Originally posted by IJSaul
UVA will win this one hands down. If everything goes right our slowest car will be a ~13.7 and our fastest a mid to high 12.

All that a mid/high 12 is going to win you is a nice view of some tail lights... :) hehe

[87GTSJUSTIN]

Especially since we're running an 8th mile! :p Hey guys let's all run stock automatic civics so they'll have a little competition!

[IJSaul]

Durn, seems I have forgotten that we are not on the 1/4 here! My bad! Forget those 13.7's as well, I screwed the pooch. Even if I can't beat you Marshall I am hoping that we will have enough consistently quick cars to come in under your guys average.

I blame Dave for not catching me on the 1/4 -> 1/8 thing. -Ian

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

bish, i didn't realize that track was only 1/8th mile.. dammit, i was lookin forward to a 1/4 mile run. oh well. in that case i predict mid to low 8s for our fastest, approx. 9.0 for our slowest.

[Viperenvy]

The format has already been decided upon and is as follows:

- Will run as many possible "qualifying" rounds as possible
- UVA and VT cars will run seperate from the rest of the crowd that night in its own class and have its own lanes to set up in and do grudge matches during qualifying
- The top 9 cars of each school's club will be placed into the finals
- 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, and so on will race HEADS UP
- Best of 9 wins the event

The race will be April 11th and the time is tba. More details as they become available. I was just thinking, our fastest car might be a conservative 7.5 and the slowest would be around mid to high 8's. I'm speaking of our 9 cars that will make it to the finals. It should be fun either way since that night we leave the track and all head down to Blacksburg for the cookout on the 12th and the car show on the 13th. Your club president, Tim, will be giving you more details shortly as I have been in contact with him. Also we will probably have one or two mobile dynos at the car show and figure out what categories and such to award trophies and all for. As always we will do trophies for categories such as best domestic, import, presentation, etc.

[leloz]

This is great, I am glad to see this event finally evolve. I do not care who wins blah blah blah, I just want to see the cars!!! Maybe we can make a joint UVA/VT video? I am sure Tim will invite VT down to Richmond for some 1/4 mile action. I look forward to April 11th.

[Viperenvy]

Actually working on such a trip leloz. We have a hookup to get 30/night rooms in a really nice sheraton hotel in richmond, indoor/outdoor pool, etc. You can see pics on our club's page. We are planning on doing a two night stay there with your club. Race on a friday and come back that night and then have a party in one of their large rooms that will be cattered. Also, they have their own bar, restaurant, parking garage, etc. We'll stay saturday night too and have some room parties and such. Should be a fun semester.

[20psi 240sx]

can i go! can i go!
i ain't never did get schooled at uva er tech, but i'd love to dyno something!
shaun

[weavil]

Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
can i go! can i go!
i ain't never did get schooled at uva er tech, but i'd love to dyno something!
shaun

Are you talking about @ the car show? It's open to all of those who register for the car show and want to pay the money to get on the mobile dyno.

[Grendelrt(va)]

I worked at that Sheraton for a year and a half as a Senior Front Desk Clerk. Nice hotel :) Also I live about 5-10 minutes from there and know the area very well. So if we go i can help you guys plan resteraunts, events or anything.

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by ElectronSi
is that your car on the back of that tow truck? thought so :rolleyes:

that was november fool! :p

i ran out of boost fluid and had to have it towed home. either that or my drivetrain fell apart on I64.

[16g-95gsx]

Originally posted by Viperenvy
The format has already been decided upon and is as follows:

- Will run as many possible "qualifying" rounds as possible
- UVA and VT cars will run seperate from the rest of the crowd that night in its own class and have its own lanes to set up in and do grudge matches during qualifying
- The top 9 cars of each school's club will be placed into the finals
- 1 vs 1, 2 vs 2, 3 vs 3, and so on will race HEADS UP
- Best of 9 wins the event

The race will be April 11th and the time is tba. More details as they become available. I was just thinking, our fastest car might be a conservative 7.5 and the slowest would be around mid to high 8's. I'm speaking of our 9 cars that will make it to the finals. It should be fun either way since that night we leave the track and all head down to Blacksburg for the cookout on the 12th and the car show on the 13th. Your club president, Tim, will be giving you more details shortly as I have been in contact with him. Also we will probably have one or two mobile dynos at the car show and figure out what categories and such to award trophies and all for. As always we will do trophies for categories such as best domestic, import, presentation, etc.

Can we get 2 rolling dyno's and set them back to back with each other for us guys with traction on street tires? (That was sarcasm for awd by the way)

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by 16g-95gsx
Can we get 2 rolling dyno's and set them back to back with each other for us guys with traction on street tires? (That was sarcasm for awd by the way)

hells yeah

[Rguy]

Can we get 2 rolling dyno's and set them back to back with each other for us guys with traction on street tires? (That was sarcasm for awd by the way)

Not a proble, im sure no one will have a problem with this. but since you're using two dynos, we get to divide whatever you get by 2. fair is fair ;)

[16g-95gsx]

Funny thing is, I'd still come out around where you are Brian... :)

[Rguy]

haha...probably.

[ElectronSi]

Originally posted by HighPSI TSi Guy
that was november fool! :p

i ran out of boost fluid and had to have it towed home. either that or my drivetrain fell apart on I64.

well i'll bring you some extra boost fluid on the 11th just in case you forget, but if your drivetrain falls apart thats on you.

[leloz]

will the car show on the 13th include a 'Stereo system' competition?

[Viperenvy]

Sorry but we haven't been able to get enough participants or judging equipment to warrant such a contest. For now we'll stick to our usual categories and hopefully the two mobile dynos!!!