New Skyline GT-R

[vmspionage]

mmmm

http://www.dreamtrade.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=motionr;action=display;num=10397442 69

http://www.in.gr/auto/news/images/big/ae_Nissan_GT-R_6456_03.jpg

[Jesus]

Car looks like ass..... I like the older Skylines better

[JasonVT]

the older ones look like ass. just look like a nomal run of the mill car to me... whatever just cause its from japan and has a turbo everyone drools over it.

:rolleyes:

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by JasonVT
the older ones look like ass. just look like a nomal run of the mill car to me... whatever just cause its from japan and has a turbo everyone drools over it.

:rolleyes: No they drool because it's the baddest Japanese car of all time! (After tuned properly of course).

[vmspionage]

400bhp Coswoth TT motor, AWD, Brembo brake by wire, Lotus suspension, CVT transmission. I'm sorry but if you don't think that's bad ass you need to have your head examined- that car will own autox. Not to mention its only 400hp on stock boost, I could imagine 500hp with less than $1000 in mods.

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by Jesus
Car looks like ass..... I like the older Skylines better I think everyone feels the same. The new one looks like shit. Looks like they started to go with the aerodynamic styling of the 350Z. But the rear end is mediocre and the front looks like a shitty Mercedes. Boo to Nissan for this one. Looks like they're competing with Honda to see who can fuck up the look of their new cars the worse.

[EEK]

looks like a giant celica:barf:

[IC x Prince]

looks like a giant cock.

[98sr20ve]

I will disagree. I never thought the old skylines looked good. Like a Buick taking Japanese steroids. Not something I would think any non informed person would really care for. The new Z's+G35's are very nice. Sure we can pick apart any car. I would not be embarrassed or need to explain why I have a Z or a G35 was in my driveway. If I owned any of the older Skylines I would have to explain to everyone why I bought such a weird looking car. Except maybe the R33. It doesn’t look that weird. Not saying I wouldnt own any of the Skylines. Nice cars.

[TPJ]

looks like a damn 350z with a body kit and some slightly different headlights. the STYLING is ass. but the performance sounds like it will be awesome. and btw the r34 is my favorite. i like the "normal" looking sports cars better than any.

[IC x Prince]

I happen to like it. not in a "racer" kinda way. I just like luxary cars, and that is like a sports luxary car.

[Skywalker]

I think the R33 looks tight! The G35 just looks like an old man lux vehicle (Benz style :thdown: ). Not downing the performance aspects, just think it looks like shit.

[Jesus]

wasnt the r32 only RWD? I know the R33 to r34 are rwd/fwd....... New skyline sucks

[IC x Prince]

Originally posted by Skywalker
I think the R33 looks tight! The G35 just looks like an old man lux vehicle (Benz style :thdown: ). Not downing the performance aspects, just think it looks like shit.
Benz is the shizzz...i'm not old yet, but I love a che-deng to death/

[98sr20ve]

Originally posted by Jesus
wasnt the r32 only RWD? I know the R33 to r34 are rwd/fwd....... New skyline sucks

At home sick confused posting the wrong number. I changed my first post to R33.

[EEK]

Originally posted by Ultraprince
I happen to like it. not in a "racer" kinda way. I just like luxary cars, and that is like a sports luxary car.

lux cars suck asshole so boring to drive haha

[66chevyIISS]

Thats a 350Z with some minor changes.



"OK. The turbos are electric! "


WTF ????

[eng]

Booo ... RB series was one of the best production engines ... EVER

:thdown: on the V6

I'll stick with getting a I6 :p

[Axelerate]

You guys are crazy!!!

Don't be afraid of new technology and styles. Things have to change. If they didn't then all are cars would look like Model T's.

I can't beleive people are downing new technology? Don't you think people laughed when people started putting turbo's on 4 cylinder's? What about fuel injection? People thought it was an end to high horsepower.

If Nissan want's to use electric turbo's then they must have a damn good reason, otherwise they would just stick to normal one's. Maybe it reduces turbo lag?

You guys sound like picky old men! :cool:

[Victum]

i dunno about the new skyline...
but one of the pics looks photochopped

[notsogoodfeline]

Originally posted by Skywalker
I think everyone feels the same. The new one looks like shit. Looks like they started to go with the aerodynamic styling of the 350Z. But the rear end is mediocre and the front looks like a shitty Mercedes. Boo to Nissan for this one. Looks like they're competing with Honda to see who can fuck up the look of their new cars the worse.

i'd have to agree with you on this one....yuck..i'm mad they fucked the skyline up like that


:barf: :mad:

[amuze]

Originally posted by Ultraprince
looks like a giant cock.

where? where? ...(looks down)..oh yeah. :eek:

[1TZ JENN]

i like the old style.. just looks like a 350z wannabe :(

[growley]

We already have that car...it's called the Infiniti G35!

[drifter]

whats up w/ this V6 bullshit?? the RB series of motors were some of the best engineered motors in a production vehicle...looks like nissan is fucking shit up on this one

[2zz-ge]

all i have to say is please dont let toyota fuck up the supra, when the new one comes out.....no v6!!!!!!!! I6 twin turbo...non-electrical....

[SixTee9]

looks like this, and it looks like that......the only thing you wont be looking at is one of those over here, and if you do it will be the tail lights when its smokin YOUR ass....hahahaha

[TPJ]

im thinking that whole thing is BS

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by drifter
whats up w/ this V6 bullshit?? the RB series of motors were some of the best engineered motors in a production vehicle...looks like nissan is fucking shit up on this one Not really. Nissan is using the same engine platform for all of their current cars. Manufacturers have been doing this for years. It helps them save money on parts production and technical research. Meanwhile, it keeps cost of parts down for us, as many parts stay the same or similar throughout the years of productions, and many of the same parts (ex: oil filters) are used by different vehicles. A version of my motor was even used in old Nissan Quests (vans). Until the 350Z, different versions of the VG30DE have been used in Z's for over 20 years.

The new engines they are using are pretty badass. 287hp NA in the 350Z. The technology in the G35 is pretty impressive so far; it's just the look of the car that ruins it for me. There should be a fine line between the look of a Skyline and a fucking Benz.

[nimmo]

i think it looks tight, except for the headlights.

[kyle]

but have yall seen the article bout the final of the R34 that nissan is making? shit is hot

[JKim]

it looks good. a refreshing look :)

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by kyle
but have yall seen the article bout the final of the R34 that nissan is making? shit is hot No, what the hell are you talking about? Link?

[kyle]

its in the new road and track
along w/ the end of the last RX7 b4 the new type they call that the "spirit R"
ummm link hold up

[kyle]

its not on the Road and track website yet, but keep checkin under "amperstad"

[20psi 240sx]

to the people talking about the v6 vs I6....
the v6 engine configuration is inherently smoother then a i6. and i think they can make more power. the 3.8 grand national v6 has been known to make over 2000rwhp. sure the rb i6 was great, but not that great. they weren't the strongest engine thats for sure. you typically had to build them at 500hp. the supra engine was stronger. 800hp before building. the v6 skyline should be terrific. until we drive one though, i don't think we should shit talk it. what needs to be compared is this skyline versus the other new cars on the market. just my thoughts

[AcuraGirl]

Looks may not be that great, but look at all the nice looking cars people buy and rice out...at least its fast!!

With the right mods and driver, that car could be great in the rally circuit....even better than the new EVO!

[Axelerate]

Another R35 concept:

http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nissan/skyline/r35/concept/home.shtml

:thup:

[one pnt 8 hatch]

with specs like that they are giving ill take one no matter how ugly the lil fucker is.

[slowa§§lancer]

Originally posted by JasonVT
the older ones look like ass. just look like a nomal run of the mill car to me... whatever just cause its from japan and has a turbo everyone drools over it.

:rolleyes:
:wtf: :eek:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.mv?imagenum=6&num=395

[eng]

Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
sure the rb i6 was great, but not that great. they weren't the strongest engine thats for sure. you typically had to build them at 500hp. the supra engine was stronger. 800hp before building.Might wanna rethink that statement ...

http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/Forum4/HTML/000144.html

The biggest (only?) advantage the 2JZ-GTE has over the RB26DETT is the extra displacement.

[bseriesbenny]

looks like the new 300z.....make it like the older models then it would look good

[20psi 240sx]

Originally posted by eng
Might wanna rethink that statement ...

http://forums.freshalloy.com/forum/Forum4/HTML/000144.html

The biggest (only?) advantage the 2JZ-GTE has over the RB26DETT is the extra displacement.

I saw that thread. motorex guy said that the rb had shorter rods! he acted like thats a good thing?! i think that guy is an idiot. you always want a longer rod. long rod=higher revs. i'm not sure if indeed the supra has longer rods or not. but that has little value to the stregnth. and i stand behind my statement. the rb isn't better then the supra engine. btw, best power i've heard of for a turbo six is a grand national. i've seen articles with cars with over 2000rwhp!

[eng]

Yeah ... I bet those 2K RWHP cars have a lot of stock components :rolleyes:

Once you start building a motor all bets are off ... but stock vs stock I'm inclined to say the RB is better.

That's not to say the 2JZ isn't a good engine. But 800HP stock ... reliably? I don't think so.

[20psi 240sx]

Originally posted by eng
Yeah ... I bet those 2K RWHP cars have a lot of stock components :rolleyes:

Once you start building a motor all bets are off ... but stock vs stock I'm inclined to say the RB is better.

That's not to say the 2JZ isn't a good engine. But 800HP stock ... reliably? I don't think so.

Why do you think the rb is better? is it the lack of a metal headgasket that the supra does have? (the rb has a carbon paper gasket). i do like the higher reving of the rb. 800hp reliably...believe it! there are just too many around to not believe! reliable for a car with that much power. if you ever build a motor with highporformance parts, the lifespan of the engine goes down. Nasport racecars have to rebuild their motors every few thousand miles. now these are extreme 13:1 compression motors. but the rule applies to most all pistons that are not cast. they will have greater heat expansion properties and will in turn have to be smaller then the bores and when cold cause piston-slap. not good on the cylinder walls, and hence the shorter lifespan then stock block by a wide margin.

now, 800hp reliably....to me this means it can last 30-50k miles.
thats what i would expect for a motor with that horsepower.
anything that last less then 10,000 miles, but more then 2,000 i would blame tuning. lots of variables....but i think any of us would probably take either one of these engines!
shaun

[Flite]

inline sixs have a better exhaust pulse for turbo applications

[eng]

Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
Why do you think the rb is better? is it the lack of a metal headgasket that the supra does have? (the rb has a carbon paper gasket).Well considering several of the Skylines that MotorRex have worked on have gone 500+ HP on the stock gasket I'd say that's pretty much a moot point.
Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
800hp reliably...believe it! there are just too many around to not believe! reliable for a car with that much power.Too many around? You honestly think there are THAT many 800+ HP Supras? Sure there's more big HP Supras than Skylines but there's only ~60 Skylines in the US anyway so that's not really a fair comparison. Sure they might last some miles with that HP ... but can they last any amount of time with hard driving? I think not. Most of the big Supras seem to be dyno queens. And the ones that aren't are mainly 1/4 ET racers. Which is fine ... but does little to prove the reliability of an engine.
Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
if you ever build a motor with highporformance parts, the lifespan of the engine goes down. Now that's just silly. Using high performance parts in a build doesn't decrease life span any ... how the car is used will. You're confusing installing parts with actually using them. If I install stronger components in a motor but drive it the same it will last longer than stock.

[reXer]

Originally posted by eng
can they last any amount of time with hard driving? I think not. Most of the big Supras seem to be dyno queens. And the ones that aren't are mainly 1/4 ET racers. Which is fine ... but does little to prove the reliability of an engine. :stupid:

[20psi 240sx]

Originally posted by eng
Well considering several of the Skylines that MotorRex have worked on have gone 500+ HP on the stock gasket I'd say that's pretty much a moot point.

big shit! whoa 500hp from stock gasket! walser had over 800hp stock gasket. titan motorsports had about the same. i put 400hp to ground on stock gasket and i'm just a 2.0.

Too many around? You honestly think there are THAT many 800+ HP Supras?

i'd say there are about 100 supras with 800hp on stock bottoms.

Sure there's more big HP Supras than Skylines but there's only ~60 Skylines in the US anyway so that's not really a fair comparison. Sure they might last some miles with that HP ... but can they last any amount of time with hard driving? I think not. Most of the big Supras seem to be dyno queens. And the ones that aren't are mainly 1/4 ET racers. Which is fine ... but does little to prove the reliability of an engine.Now that's just silly.

"Using high performance parts in a build doesn't decrease life span any "

Comon! i even gave you examples of why! forged metal expands more then a cast metal when heated. to make up for that you have to have more clearances on a highperformance motor. when its cold the pistons actually move around in the cylinders and scratch the walls. this will cause bad compression and leakdown. built motors have to be rebuilt more often!

how the car is used will. You're confusing installing parts with actually using them. If I install stronger components in a motor but drive it the same it will last longer than stock.

this is true for bearings and con rods. not for pistons.

and in keeping to the topic of this thread, i think g35 looks nice! i hope the gtr version makes it here.
shaun

[eng]

Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
big shit! whoa 500hp from stock gasket! walser had over 800hp stock gasket. titan motorsports had about the same. i put 400hp to ground on stock gasket and i'm just a 2.0.Wow, you named 2 cars. Big Shit! My point is that the stock gasket is a fairly good one. I wouldn't be caught dead without upgrading a head gasket on ANY car that I had plans with. Plus I don't give much weight to the reliability of an engines stock headgasket when determining how good the motor is ... if you want to do that that's fine. Knock some points off of the RB for not including a metal head gasket.
Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
i'd say there are about 100 supras with 800hp on stock bottoms.Congratulations. You've named less than 1% of the Supras in the US. How this testifies to how reliable the 2JZ-GTE is ... I'm not really sure ...

Oh, how many of those spilled their guts on the strip?
Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
Comon! i even gave you examples of why! forged metal expands more then a cast metal when heated. to make up for that you have to have more clearances on a highperformance motor. when its cold the pistons actually move around in the cylinders and scratch the walls. this will cause bad compression and leakdown. built motors have to be rebuilt more often!
Really? Quote from Engine Builder Magazine:
Some people think that the same thermal characteristics that allow forged pistons to run cooler also causes them to swell more as they heat up. Consequently, there’s a common misconception that forged pistons always require greater skirt-to-wall clearances. This is a notion that isn’t necessarily true because clearances depend on the type of alloy that’s used in a forged piston, the design of the piston itself and the application in which the piston will be used. Some forged alloys actually have a lower coefficient of thermal expansion than the alloys commonly used in conventional cast pistons!I don't see why everyone seems to think the 2JZ-GTE is a godly engine and can handle nearly 3X the stock HP on stock components. I wouldn't make the claim that the RB series could do that. I still think it's one of the best mass produced engines made ... along with Supra motor and a few others.

Back on topic, I don't like the G35 :p However, it does look better than the concept Skyline Nissan had at the Tokyo Motor Show.

[Heat]

The 2jz-gte is king because there is no other engine like it readily available in the US. Responds excellent to mods, can hold big HP pretty reliably imo.

The RB26dett is the only thing that can compare to the 2jz-gte imo. However, I do not know enough about skylines to go beyond that.

Total package I'd lean towards the skyline, engine i'd lean towards the supra.

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by Heat
The 2jz-gte is king because there is no other engine like it readily available in the US. Responds excellent to mods, can hold big HP pretty reliably imo.
The VG30DET can handle 600hp w/ out ANY internal mods. Just thought I'd throw that in; the others mentioned are badass too!

[Heat]

vg30dett pales in comparison to the 2jz.

[drifter]

the potentials of both the 2jz-gte and rb26dett are very very close, but i believe the rb26dett has the slight advantage

[_burn_]

Originally posted by 20psi 240sx
is it the lack of a metal headgasket that the supra does have? (the rb has a carbon paper gasket........800hp reliably...believe itshaun

man this guys funny. ive seen quite a few supras that have been tested at around 600 horses and had internal mods. i wish i could run 3 times as much horsepower as i got on my internally stock ls ( 550 horses!!!!)

[chdesign]

I seriously doubt they are going to base the skyline on a 300Z processor. Teh fairlady adn Skyline have been very far apart in Japan and I don't see them merging them now not with the history the Skyline has.

[_burn_]

Originally posted by chdesign
I seriously doubt they are going to base the skyline on a 300Z processor. Teh fairlady adn Skyline have been very far apart in Japan and I don't see them merging them now not with the history the Skyline has.

good point:beer:

[20psi 240sx]

well it is built on the same frame now. and they look very close the same. the g35 IS THE NEW SKYLINE! its not a gtr, but rather a regular skyline. i think people as a whole should start calling the gtr something other then a skyline, cause most non-gtr skylines are pretty uninspiring and slow heavy cars.

[20psi 240sx]

wrong pic..

[mys142lo]

Y did they kill the skyline???????? it looks like shit i like the older concept of the r35, it looked so much better

[mys142lo]

also i thought the new r35s where gonna look like thishttp://www.geocities.com/bradbigboy/index_00000a.htm

[DrOpPeDRiCe]

uhh.........UGLY! I CAN'T BELEIVE THEY DID THAT TO THE SKYLINE!!! WHATS THE WORLD COMING TO!?:curse: