NASA-X question

[tangoDelta]

I was just reading the 2008 Classification PDF (http://www.nasaproracing.com/rules/nasa-x/NASA-X_Classes.pdf) and I have a question:


25) Water injection system +6 (An alcohol-water mixture is permitted, but the driver must
notify the appropriate Event Director that it is being used.)



26) Fuel: Any grade of commercially available unmodified gasoline or diesel--all octane levels
of retail available race gas are permitted. No “home brewed” methanol/ethanol/alcohol
mixtures are permitted. Methanol injection systems are illegal. Fuel additives are prohibited.

Why is alcohol/water injection allowed but not meth injection?

[vafierro]

Meth will rot your teeth out and eventually ruin your life. Don't get started on that stuff. It's really hard to get off once you've started.

JUST SAY NO to drugs of any kind...

Oh, you meant methanol? My bad...

[tangoDelta]

A funny reply is better than no reply at all. Thanks guy.

[Niburu]

my guess would be that it's a hazard that NASA's insurance won't cover if there is an incident

[vafierro]

Actually the best way to get an answer to this is to email someone at the SCCA. They should have email addresses on the web. Its hard to say why they make these decisions.

[getfast]

Actually the best way to get an answer to this is to email someone at the SCCA. They should have email addresses on the web. Its hard to say why they make these decisions.

Well he could email someone at the SCCA but since it's a question about NASA rules, he more than likely won't get an answer. :D

The OP may want to email this question to NASA's regional autocross director... Jon Felton, nasa-x at get-fast.net

or

NASA's national autocross director and the guy who co-wrote the very rules he questions... Jon Felton, nasa-x at get-fast.net

That guy posts here sometimes too! ;)

[D_Eclipse9916]

I believe it had to do with methanol if it lights on fire, you cannot see it burning. So you would see someone flailing around, but not necessarily they were on fire if methanol got on them somehow and lit them on fire.

Water obviously doesnt do this..

Come on Jon, explain for reals...yo...lol

[tangoDelta]

I emailed tech@nasaracing.net yesterday. I'll wait another day or two for a response before I give Jon Felton a try.

The reason I'm asking is because I'm currently injecting a Methanol/Water mix and would need to retune if I have to switch to Alcohol/Water for the AutoX events.

[AE Guy]

That guy posts here sometimes too! ;)
ha ha ha!!!
your too much...:p

[getfast]

Come on Jon, explain for reals...yo...lol

I'd love to, but the only "official" communication about rules questions must take place via email so both parties have a private written record. Anything posted in a forum would be unofficial. ;)

[getfast]

I emailed tech@nasaracing.net yesterday. I'll wait another day or two for a response before I give Jon Felton a try.

You probably won't get a response - that email address goes to NASA's regional chief of roadracing, time trial, and HPDE technical inspection (Richard Mitchum) who has nothing to do with autocross rules whatsoever. ;)

[Niburu]

You probably won't get a response - that email address goes to NASA's regional chief of roadracing, time trial, and HPDE technical inspection (Richard Mitchum) who has nothing to do with autocross rules whatsoever. ;)

but he does do some awesome work on RX-7's:D

[getfast]

Richard does some awesome work on lots of stuff. Next time you're over there, ask him to show you the Rolex GT Porsche 997 he's responsible for the care & feeding of... it's gorgeous. ;)

Back on topic, to the OP, I'm getting an official clarification on this question from the national office. Feel free to email anytime.

Jon

[vafierro]

OOPS, NASA vs. SCCA... foot in mouth that time. You know what I meant though....

Either way, Rules is Rules and you have to get with the sanctionnig body to get any kind of real answer...

BTW: I thought NASA handled the space shuttle?

[getfast]

Agreed re: rules, which is why the OP has been told exactly who to talk to, and how to talk to 'em, above. ;)

One NASA launches space shuttles, the other NASA launches racing careers. :D

[ritz]

Well he could email someone at the SCCA but since it's a question about NASA rules, he more than likely won't get an answer. :D

The OP may want to email this question to NASA's regional autocross director... Jon Felton, nasa-x at get-fast.net

or

NASA's national autocross director and the guy who co-wrote the very rules he questions... Jon Felton, nasa-x at get-fast.net

That guy posts here sometimes too! ;)

lol

[DontPANIC]

this thread is great! :thup:

I'm actually interested in the explanation myself. i might just have to track down this jon fellow. email you say?