Dragons Ridge

[Vanilla Face]

Has anyone heard about this or know anymore info?

http://www.dragonsridge.com/

[C45P312]

dead.

[nismo300zr2]

damm a roadcourse right in williamsburg? :-/ i wonder what happened.
i'd be there alot more than VIR

[Mongoose87]

dead.

When did that happen?

[93sr-5ftw]

When did that happen?

my guess is not enough funds, backing, or just too overwhelming

[Axelerate]

Yeah, it the go ahead from the city, but as of right now they are looking for the $$$. It would be a dream come true, but it's doubtfull that it will happen.

Plenty of enthusiasts in the area to keep them rich though!

[tie fitr]

There's a whole lot of construction going on there for it to be dead! i drove by there a few months ago and there was excavators everywhere.

[cafcwest]

They built a very nice in-road, and started moving some earth around. Then the residents bitched. Three years later, they finally have approval....and ran out of money in the litigation process.

I am very good friends with someone who was on their board of directors - he hasn't heard anything in about a year the last time we talked about it.

i.e - dead.

[Corey]

I hope it becomes a reality (completed) sometime in the near future.

[s2kattracks]

it would be very cool, but it doesn't look too good anymore :(

[S2K_Guy]

Any news on their website? I've only heard good news about it recently, but I admit my sources are less than reliable.

[Jasbo]

the owner of this place is my dentist... Last time I talked to him about it (about 4 months ago) he told me they were working through the contract with the builders and trying to settle on a price... No ETA on completion though he said... alot of red tape.

[Vanilla Face]

who is your dentist?

[greencoug]

If they opened up registration for the club and charged a small fee, they could probably make quite a bit of money to finish this. Thats one of the main reasons I bought a truck, because there is nothing really close enough for me to take a sports car to go race. I'd contibute what if the fee is reasonable.

[maacodale]

When I was the autocross chairman with the Old Dominion Region SCCA, we were kept in the loop pretty sell, since SCCA-ODR would have the SCCA sanction for races.

The last I heard, which could have been loaded with "spin" was the county wanted significant improvements in the infrastructure. Roads, plumbing, drainage etc. "Supposedly" there is a subdivision going in somewhere down the road from the track, which also has to make those improvements. So I understand, the track developers are waiting for them to do the improvements, thus saving money. I have also heard there is clearing done and even rumors of pavement in some places, but I can't confirm that. All one has to do is look at VIR or Summit Point and see how popular thay are. I think it would be a good deal for the county, but of course, you have the "not in my back yard" assholes. To a point I understand their situation too. Have y'all heard all the shit Shenandoah Speedway near Charlottesville has had to put up with?

The long and short of it i sthat it would be absolutely awesome. Especially if it can be done as planned. Basically a membership track, where you buy rights to use it. Hell, build that thing, I'll be there!

[s2kattracks]

It would be amazing! I still have hopes. Hopefully the car would be paid off around the time they are done with it, thats if it does happen of course.

[S2K_Guy]

I think someone needs to hop a fence, take a look around and report back to us.

I don't think their website has been updated since way before July!

[SS BEEOTCH]

shoot them an email? or call? I think a road course that close would be kick ass.

[jebsurf]

i hope it happens so i can buy a bike

[S2K_Guy]

Well I heard yesterday that they were done building it, but I'm a little skeptical of my source. I'm going to have to investigate.

[odu_integra]

Well I heard yesterday that they were done building it, but I'm a little skeptical of my source. I'm going to have to investigate.

Yeah, I'm not sure about this. They used to have a website, but it doesn't seem to be working any more.

[S2K_Guy]

no bueno

[Rx7]

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[all4sr's]

I think someone needs to hop a fence, take a look around and report back to us.

I don't think their website has been updated since way before July!


IM DOWN.......lol....that would be badass to have a roadcourse there.....id be there like 24/7

[s2kattracks]

http://http://www.dragonsridge.com/

.............mmmm, I want this to happen!!!

[Ninja11]

any designated opening date? or maybe some pics?

[cafcwest]

Damnit people, as much as I want a race track 15 minutes away, it will not be happening ANY TIME SOON.

I *should* be 'unemployed' next week, I will ride down and take some pictures and show everyone what little has been developed.

[Ninja11]

ahh that sucks... well if its finish by summer its all good i wont have a car worthy of driving till around then. ya get pics plz

[Niburu]

ahh that sucks... well if its finish by summer its all good i wont have a car worthy of driving till around then. ya get pics plz

There is a paved acces road and thats it, as far as anyone knows nothing else has been done. Most likely nothing else is EVER going to be done.
Read the whole thread, basically New Kent county and it's residents freaked out because they thought this was going to be some sorta NASCAR track and fought it's development.

[odu_integra]

There is a paved acces road and thats it, as far as anyone knows nothing else has been done. Most likely nothing else is EVER going to be done.
Read the whole thread, basically New Kent county and it's residents freaked out because they thought this was going to be some sorta NASCAR track and fought it's development.

Actually they probably fought it because it wasn't nascar! The thought of turns on a track blew their simple little minds. JK. Its a real shame this appears to be going nowhere

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[Ninja11]

well if this never happens then is there another track? if so where. im in chesterfield(right next to richmond)

[Ninja11]

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2022605

thats got a layout of what it might look like. if it could happen it would be sweet. i ddont know why ppl wouldnt want it. if houses are far eneough away there not gonna hear anything. and it could probably help develop new kent.

[S2K_Guy]

</3 if this doesn't go through

[Niburu]

Actually they probably fought it because it wasn't nascar! The thought of turns on a track blew their simple little minds. JK. Its a real shame this appears to be going nowhere

I've been following this closely for awhile and one of the comments a public meeting by one of the local residents was basically that they didn't want " all that noise and traffic" and get this "prostitution and drugs like that track in Richmond has".
Which I can't blame them too much for because I don't like NASCAR weekend traffic either.

so ninja11 your options for track days are autocrosses with either SCCA, NASA, or VMSC at various venues
and whatever HPDE events you can find going on at VIR and Summit Point

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[Mr. Projekt]

this area is pointless....

[fullsize fun]

yea unless you want to build a 200 5k sqft houses on 1/8th of an acre lots in a stupid ass development that got for $900,000 and you can hear your neighbor taking a crap .the area doesn't want you.

[DecentCivicZ6]

smh, all these lame ass boring ass nobodys sittin at home complaining about tracks...this is sad how people who wanna sit at fuckin home all day can stop us from having fun. wtf

[Prsrcokr]

I don't know the full story from the developers side but I work with the County often and look at all the development coming through the County. We have just finished building the road past the entrance of which these folks paid a portion to have it constructed to the requirements for traffic generated by a track on the property. The County has still not heard anything on the development since it's approval for rezoning.

I was talking with someone the other day and while it's pure speculation, there is a large amount of housing planned in the development. Perhaps they're waiting for the market to bounce back as this is probably a big funding point for the track?

[Rx7]

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[Corey]

^ WTF is with you and those posts?

[BlackEX]

I was talking with my mother-in-law about this recently (she works for New Kent county) and she said that a lot of the opposition was from the residents at Royal New Kent Golf Course. There's a lot of money in that neighborhood and they didn't want a racetrack "in their backyard". These are the same residents that got 4th of July fireworks at Colonial Downs permanently canceled because it made too much noise.:rolleyes:

[cardshark99va]

screw them fuckin rich bitches the rest of the region would love to have a track besides VIR which is busy most of the year

[Vanilla Face]

the track owners should do like Busch Gardens. Kings Mill was in no way going to allow apollos chariot, and they were going to protest(bad word choice) at the board meeting for it. Busch said ok, we wont build it, the HOA didn't go, and Busch applied anyway. If you don't know what happened from there you're stupid.

[S2K_Guy]

Mass protest for the track to be built at New Kent town hall this weekend?

[Ninja11]

i think we should actually do that lol. not this weekend,i have to work.

[odu_integra]

A big turnout could show potential developers the amout of interest there is.

[Ninja11]

at the same time if the home owners people or whoever doesnt want it shows up they would really not like it when they see alot of people show up in sports cars that are loud because people put on new exhaust, or a system etc. but i think it would show the people that it would also help the economy of the county because of the amount of interest. so we should show up anyway.

[S2K_Guy]

at the same time if the home owners people or whoever doesnt want it shows up they would really not like it when they see alot of people show up in sports cars that are loud because people put on new exhaust, or a system etc. but i think it would show the people that it would also help the economy of the county because of the amount of interest. so we should show up anyway.

Everyone in the minivans!!! Bring your mothers!!

[Ninja11]

yes i agree. rent 2 hybrids and say thats what we drive on the track with( cuz their quiet)

[S2K_Guy]

Where was the track supposed to be?

[getfast]

It's almost within sight of I-64 at exit 220. Take Route 33 toward West Point and take your first right - just after the gas station by the highway - onto route 632. Go about 1.8(?) miles and the proposed track property is on the right.


http://www.get-fast.net/images/dragonsridge.jpg


Unfortunately there are many houses on 632. And road course facilities potentially produce noise 7 days a week...

[Ninja11]

ahh get over the noise. think of the bright side. it could help their economy

[S2K_Guy]

ahh get over the noise. think of the bright side. it could help their economy

Yeah there isn't a whole lot in New Kent, and this could totally bring at least something in there.

[getfast]

Maybe they just don't want anything there? :mad:

I'm certainly not on the side of the residents/protesters - believe me, if anyone wants a roadcourse this close to home, it's me - however, having been to the proposed DragonsRidge site several times now... it's on a small road in a residential area. There are dozens of houses within earshot of the place. Think about it... you moved out there for the cheap land and peace/tranquility, commuting to work in Richmond or Williamsburg everyday... the last thing you want is "race traffic" on your street, and constant noise.

We all know it would bring plenty of money into that area - put any hotel or gas station near a track and it will always be busy - but I'm guessing that the main problem is people who bought into that area are preaching the NIMBY mentality ("not in my back yard!") :(

At least we've now got this to dream about in the area too:

http://www.albemarlemotorsport.com/

I sure hope that one comes together,

Jon

[Axelerate]

Thats ones in NC, so it will be built.

[getfast]

NC? Their website says "800 acres in southern Chesapeake, Virginia" ;)

Jon

[Axelerate]

NC? Their website says "800 acres in southern Chesapeake, Virginia" ;)

Jon

whoops, I was thinking of the other new track that's supposed to get built down there.

[Axelerate]

We need to flood this address:


info@albemarlemotorsport.com

If they build it, EVERYONE will come! My membership fees will be in the mail!

[Ninja11]

yea but dragons ridge would he closer to me lol. we need to do something to speed the process up. its taking forever and at this rate well be old by the time it comes.

[getfast]

Oh yeah, High Rock... that's a go: http://racehighrock.com/track.php

NASA-SE already has it on their unofficial '08 schedule! ;)

Jon

[getfast]

yea but dragons ridge would he closer to me lol. we need to do something to speed the process up. its taking forever and at this rate well be old by the time it comes.

I know someone closer to the project than the rest of us. I'll ask after he gets home from PRI, and report back...

Jon

[Axelerate]

Oh yeah, High Rock... that's a go: http://racehighrock.com/track.php

NASA-SE already has it on their unofficial '08 schedule! ;)

Jon

When is that "supposed" to be???

[maacodale]

As much as I hate to say it, there will never be anything built in the SE VA area. Years ago, Paul Sawyer, the previous owner of RIR wanted to relocate the track to the area. He had the land and the money. The local bureaucrats would have had to do very little, yet they couldn't get their heads out if their collective asses long enough to recognize the economic benefits of a track. Thus, he decided to buy out the state fair folks and revamp RIR into what you see today. He since sold RIR and bought the dirt track in Saluda. His family runs that now and has made it one of the best dirt tracks on the east cost if not the country.

As for Dragon's Ridge, while I was autocross chairman for the Old Dominion Region of the SCCA, I was pretty well up on developments at the time. That was probably 5 or 6 years ago at a minimum. The developer was running into every type of opposition you could imagine. With the lack of updates through the web site I can only imagine they have run out of money or options, or both. Shame too, it would have been a great opportunity for the area and us enthusiasts.

As for the Carolina track, the Central Carolina Region SCCA's message board has a thread about what the developer has had to endure. I can see how building a track and trying to get over the hurdles everyone throws at you could really get you down.

[getfast]

When is that "supposed" to be???

Late summer or fall '08 at the earliest.

Jon

[NavyRSt]

At least we've now got this to dream about in the area too:

http://www.albemarlemotorsport.com/

I sure hope that one comes together,

Jon

Funny, if you go to the "estate" website. It's written as though everything is already built!:confused:

[forced4gsix3]

I like the condos at high rock. Thats my dream home.

[NeverEnough]

This a perfect example of why Virginia SUCKS! Even VIR is technically in NC, they know better...

There is so little land left for a developement this large that it would be extremely difficult to make it happen anywhere in the Communist Wealth.

[blah]

This a perfect example of why Virginia SUCKS! Even VIR is technically in NC, they know better...

There is so little land left for a developement this large that it would be extremely difficult to make it happen anywhere in the Communist Wealth.
What?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2378/jsasip6.jpg

[NeverEnough]

well, it's on the line then... you have to cross into NC to get to it... at least the way my GPS sent me...

[vbspec]

well, it's on the line then... you have to cross into NC to get to it... at least the way my GPS sent me...

And the fact thats its on/near the line makes it not in the state? Also if you do any research on new tracks like Dale said the developers are having to go threw unbelievable pains and many million of $'s to make these things happen. And as much as I'd love to see another track built closer to my home, one weekend at VIR will have you hooked on the place!!!

[Vanilla Face]

well, it's on the line then... you have to cross into NC to get to it... at least the way my GPS sent me...

OMFG! ALASKA IS IN CANADA!

[MiniCoop03]

Lmfao, the only way to get into VIR is throw Milton, NC. I love the track, especially those damn go karts they have. I wonder if anyone has flipped one? Someone I knew got spun down the front stretch and hit the wall and tore the kart all up.

[SPEEDADDICT89]

so at the end of last year my girls dad was racing his brand new cbr and wiht in an hour of track time he dropped it he blames it on that fact that he was used to his busa and the cbr was way lighter just thought i would throw that out there

[Vanilla Face]

what does this have to do with a thread was started over a year ago, and that i was last posted in over 5 months ago?

[Bizkit64]

Sooo... is this track open or something? Whats the news?

[Lord Humongous]

so at the end of last year my girls dad was racing his brand new cbr and wiht in an hour of track time he dropped it he blames it on that fact that he was used to his busa and the cbr was way lighter just thought i would throw that out there

So basically he's a gigantic fucking failure...

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[ms. gixxerman11]

that bites

[mrlegoman]

Dang it. Another track in VA would be awesome. VIR is growing as well as their rates. Summit is bringing in a lot of government money and I think the tracks are becoming a secondary concern.

[popwars123]

i had dinner with the main shareholder of this whole thing tonight and he said that they want to start but need one more person to commit so they have enough funds...

[Vanilla Face]

how much?

[elambz]

i had dinner with the main shareholder of this whole thing tonight and he said that they want to start but need one more person to commit so they have enough funds...

Would be great for someone to step up to the plate if thats the case. I'd love so much to have a track that close.

[ShawnD]

We could make a fund and have one representative for us there. They should do like Infineon and make a stretch so it could also do drag events.

[vbspec]

We could make a fund and have one representative for us there. They should do like Infineon and make a stretch so it could also do drag events.

Not going to work seeing how its less than 30min from VMP.

[tie fitr]

Not going to work seeing how its less than 30min from VMP.

It's about an hour from VMP, and Richmond Dragway is only 20 mins away, but if it offered a decent strip with a nice shutdown, I would def go there.

[popwars123]

how much?

im not sure but im sure its a pretty big chunk of change

[OhShift!]

im not sure but im sure its a pretty big chunk of change

Well shit, I'm glad you cleared that up.

[foose_rides]

if this happend i would have to move to williamsburg...i would live in my car, in the parkinglot

[Kerrigan Smith]

To all of those who are interested Dragons Ridge has moved into the final Master plan for Phase 1. It appears it is going to be a Motorsport Country Club focusing on members for the first year at least. Membership plans are now being finalized and the board is curious if the support and interest is there for a track that focuses on members, and as much driving time as they can pay for; as opposed to finding time for members and getting them on track when ever they can.

If there are seriously interested potential members out there please send a note to "dragonsridge1@msn.com" to help get this track going. With any luck tree's will be falling in November.

[getfast]

Thanks for the update, that sounds like excellent news!

Jon

[Axelerate]

Wow, this would be awesome.

I will defeinetly send them a e-mail.

[Corey]

I'd expect the membership prices will be super high since terms like "country club" are being use. :(

[getfast]

Hard to say. VIR's membership rates are certainly reasonable (compared to Lime Rock's or even Autobahn's rates anyway.)

The question is... do the members pay a flat rate a year and get "free" track time pretty much anytime they want it (like Autobahn), or do they pay a smaller rate a year and get track time as often as it's scheduled, for an additional fee per day (like VIR.)

Also I'm sure the new facility will be rented by groups who put on track events for non-countryclub members with any make of car, like NASA... hopefully there will be at least a few weekends a season to spare!

Looking forward to the concept of "driving on the track all day, sleeping in my own bed all night" hahahaha,

Jon

[Corey]

Looking forward to the concept of "driving on the track all day, sleeping in my own bed all night" hahahaha,
I'm quite certain you're not the only one...

[elambz]

This is awesome news.

[Tarzan Bakerada]

I'm quite certain you're not the only one...

+11111111

[scooby2.0t]

Wow this is the first i have heard of this. I really hope it gos through im getting tired of driving over 6 and a half hours to go to vir.

[Axelerate]

Heard a rumor today, hope it's true.


See you guys on track in 2010!

[Impulsed7]

In to show Interest...

keep us updated, I'm doing a whole motorswap for this...

[jebsurf]

If this is true I am going to buy me a track whore.

[Axelerate]

From what I heard from a very reliable source is that someone has purchased the project and it is supposed to be open in 2010.

New track layout, no country club, just a track. PCA is already planning events for 2010.

[Corey]

Very nice.

[streetsk8er757]

Des anyone know if they will have trackdays for motorcycles?