Virginia Pilot article related to 564 racers

[C45P312]

Ownership of racing vehicles sought by Norfolk prosecutors

By MICHELLE WASHINGTON, The Virginian-Pilot
© March 29, 2006




One car is a 1990 Ford Mustang.

Another is a 1990 Acura RS.

A third is a 1992 Honda Civic hatchback with an owner who said he spent between $10,000 and $12,000 tricking it out.

The Norfolk Commonwealth's Attorney's office wants them all.

Last week, prosecutors filed court papers seeking to take ownership of the cars through a procedure called civil forfeiture. Prosecutors said the cars, seven in all, were used to drag race on Interstate 564 earlier this month. The cars have been sitting in a police impound lot since then.

The drivers were charged with racing, but have not yet been to court. The cases are scheduled to be heard next month, but likely will be postponed.

State law says that if a person is convicted of racing, his car can be taken and disposed of by the state. The forfeiture cases will not be heard until the conclusion of the racing charges.

John Hooker Jr. represents Christopher Isaac, one of the men charged with racing. Isaac's 1990 Mustang is worth about $5,000, Hooker said.

"He's a soft-spoken, nice, polite 19-year-old kid," Hooker said.

[(F-)]

is that the whole story?

[crxnfx]

hmm....I guess they shouldn't have started returning the vehicles to their owners huh?

[C45P312]

is that the whole story?
yup, copied it straight from pilotonline.com

[MerF]

Good luck all, but it looks like your car is about to pay the ultimate price for your pennance!

[RPRacing]

hmm....I guess they shouldn't have started returning the vehicles to their owners huh?
please dont comment on things you have no idea about. the cars returned legally had to be returned.

[MerF]

please dont comment on things you have no idea about. the cars returned legally had to be returned.
Please don't get offended by his statement. He was saying that the state fucked up by giving you guys the false hope of having your car back, only to get it yanked back...which sucks for you guys...at least that's what I got out of his post.

[RPRacing]

nah, a few members from the group who got impounded have got the cars back already. there were legal reasons why they were allowed to get them back. To me, it looks like he was referring to them

[reocamaro]

What were these reasons? The better one knows the law, the better one can work his way around it. :)

[The_rabbit1]

Mebe the cars didnt belong to the drivers? they were in daddy's name? just a hunch.

[EH3_SOHC]

or the bank still had the title, the state cant legally take something , or have something "forfeited" by someone who dosent legally own the car

[00civichatch]

god you guys are genius's

[FLUFFY]

Even though laws were broken, I think everyone has to have some kind of sympathy for the few who's cars were impounded. Regardless of their actions, losing a car would be like losing a child or wife to some people. Hope all turns out decent for those affected and lessons were learned.

[MexDizzle]

Even though laws were broken, I think everyone has to have some kind of sympathy for the few who's cars were impounded. Regardless of their actions, losing a car would be like losing a child or wife to some people. Hope all turns out decent for those affected and lessons were learned.

Bull Fucking Shit.....no sympathy from me...you are caught street racing you pay the price, and you cant compare it to losing a life....losing a loved one is out of your hands but those that street race are taking their own risks....sorry for their loss but they deserved it.......

these are the guys that make it bad for the rest of us......

[Odyssey]

Even though laws were broken, I think everyone has to have some kind of sympathy for the few who's cars were impounded. Regardless of their actions, losing a car would be like losing a child or wife to some people. Hope all turns out decent for those affected and lessons were learned.
STFU with that shit! No offense to the people who got their cars impounded, but they knew what they were doing was illegal. And those illegal activities had consequences.

[MexDizzle]

STFU with that shit! No offense to the people who got their cars impounded, but they knew what they were doing was illegal. And those illegal activities had consequences.

at least someone feels the way i do.....

[FLUFFY]

STFU with what shit?! Did I fucking say that the cops were totally in the wrong for busting them and taking their cars? No, I didnt. They knew exactly what they were doing was illegal and I do not condone that, as I sure 99% of the people on these boards dont. But at the same time, are all 99% of those people totally innocent when it comes to breaking the laws in the past while driving? Even 1mph over the speed limit is braking the law, highly unlikely to get ticketed but illegal none the less. So when it comes to these few who's cars were taken, yes, I have a certain amount of sympathy for them losing their cars but not for the reason they were impounded.

[MexDizzle]

yo you stupid son of a bitch......dont get all jumpy, you were the one that made the retarded comments about having sympathy for them and how losing a car is like losing a family member.......

[skee101]

yo you stupid son of a bitch......dont get all jumpy, you were the one that made the retarded comments about having sympathy for them and how losing a car is like losing a family member.......

HAHAHA

[Lord_Vegeta]

I hope they don't crush their cars because thats like the death penalty to some people......Believe it or not.

[mab9981]

priorities are all kinds of dicked up, huh?

[tecnic1]

Even though laws were broken, I think everyone has to have some kind of sympathy for the few who's cars were impounded. Regardless of their actions, losing a car would be like losing a child or wife to some people. Hope all turns out decent for those affected and lessons were learned.
If you are one of those people, kill yourself right now. Go get some draino, and drink it.
That is by far the most ignorant statement of all the really ignorant statements ever posted on drag.

[growley]

If you are one of those people, kill yourself right now. Go get some draino, and drink it.
That is by far the most ignorant statement of all the really ignorant statements ever posted on drag.
How is that ignorant? He probably means that some people's cars mean alot to them, which is easy to understand. Calm down there hoss.

[T-Hybrid#2]

any one who was racing is getting what they deserve..An if not yet they will one day..All the people who did race(and they know who they are) give everyone a bad name on this site..! In my opinion..But as they say opinions are like ass***** everyone has one..There is mine...
If ya wanna race Richmond is only 1hr away,take it there and kill yourself..NOT OTHERS

[tecnic1]

no..
If you think you can compare a car to your family, you just have a fucked up perspective.
You lose you car, you build a new one. You lose a child, what do you do? Start ordering parts off of ebay for a new one?

[T-Hybrid#2]

no..
If you think you can compare a car to your family, you just have a fucked up perspective.
You lose you car, you build a new one. You lose a child, what do you do? Start ordering parts off of ebay for a new one?


I agree....Or should I say ditto...

[FLUFFY]

If you are one of those people, kill yourself right now. Go get some draino, and drink it.
That is by far the most ignorant statement of all the really ignorant statements ever posted on drag.
: Drinks some draino and kills self to make tecnic1 happy :
[End ignorance]
:p

I think a couple of you read too deep into what I posted. True maybe a shitty comparison to use, but for some complete car fanatics who are younger males and single, losing a car could be on the same level as losing a spouse. Maybe not the same in the long term aspect of things, but definitely the initial shock of having the one thing they truely care about being gone.

And if that was possibly the most ignorant thing ever posted on Drag then maybe you dont read the boards that much. I think all these fucktards who were posting shit like "Wheres the next race at" and "So is 564 really done for good" after the 564 bust, now that is some ignorant shit.

[FLUFFY]

no..
If you think you can compare a car to your family, you just have a fucked up perspective.
You lose you car, you build a new one. You lose a child, what do you do? Start ordering parts off of ebay for a new one?

I do think I can compare losing my car to losing my family because I have lost a wife and child. No they didnt pass away, it was more of a she turned out to be a complete ho bag after 6 years of being together and after a paternity test the child ended up not being mine after 3 years of thinking she was. So I DO know what its like to lose a family. And I also know what its like to lose a car. Mine was impounded almost two years ago after getting a DUI. Definitely the same initial depression and sadness watching your car become city property as it is finding out that you no longer have a family. My car was bought after the ex was gone and I see it more as a symbol of happiness and freedom and not just some random car that gets me from point A to point B and it was heartbreaking watching that shit get towed away. But I didnt go running around claiming it was BS that they took my car or blame others. I was mature enough to know that I fucked up and I took full responsibility.

Hardly ignorant when I'm speaking from personal experience in both situations. But thats just my perspective.

[tecnic1]

no. totally different.
I'll spot you the $3 for the draino if you need it.

[lawjizams]

no. totally different.
I'll spot you the $3 for the draino if you need it.


ROFL!

[MAD_DOHC]

no. totally different.
I'll spot you the $3 for the draino if you need it.

I'll chip in half, no need to blow all your hard earned money.

Fluffy, you can whine/bitch/moan all you want to, make any comparision you choose, buy you are in the wrong here and it would be easiest if you just STFU and don't post about this again.

The people/kids were stupid for racing and myself and others hope they don't get their cars back and that they do get crushed. You are a dumb shit for marrying the ho bag to start with so don't start crying about it. Everybody makes wrong decisions, live with the consequences and don't look for sympathy because somebody always has had something worse happen than you in life.

If you beer bong the Drano, it will hit you a little quicker. Enjoy.

[spooledex]

Just saw the news and said that they took like 9 cars. Is this true?

[growley]

no. totally different.
I'll spot you the $3 for the draino if you need it.
Wow, seems like some of you really don't know how to interpret a metaphor because you guys are taking his initial comparison WAY too literally. People hold some of there possession to be of high sentimental value, such as pets, or even collections. I don't think that he's saying he'd put his car before his family. Perhap you guys are the ones who should drink the draino.

[MexDizzle]

Wow, seems like some of you really don't know how to interpret a metaphor because you guys are taking his initial comparison WAY too literally. People hold some of there possession to be of high sentimental value, such as pets, or even collections. I don't think that he's saying he'd put his car before his family. Perhap you guys are the ones who should drink the draino.

whoa there, now here you come trying to defend someones ignorant comments with a more stupid version, when did we say anything about him putting his car before his family......he compared LOSING a car to losing a loved one...ive lost family and ive lost cars and i never shed a tear when i lost a car......so you join him and you both play draino pong or take shots......

[lawjizams]

To be honest, I would be happy like a mofo if I found out a kid wasn't mine(especially when the kid is like no where close to 18). No more child support and more money for me. That would be a big chunk of dirt off my shoulder and not to mention to be free and single again woot. Thats just me though :)

[kawgomoo]

yeah street racing is pretty f ucking dumb... alot of us do it.

basically if your gonna race, be prepared for the consequence. dont whine when they snatch your car.

personally i think the ricers should step it up and start t boning cop cars at 100 miles an hour when they try and do a rolling road block... might as well, u r already screwed.

[growley]

whoa there, now here you come trying to defend someones ignorant comments with a more stupid version, when did we say anything about him putting his car before his family......he compared LOSING a car to losing a loved one...ive lost family and ive lost cars and i never shed a tear when i lost a car......so you join him and you both play draino pong or take shots......
Are you a nitwit? Do you even read? Your thoughts don't count.

[FLUFFY]

I'll chip in half, no need to blow all your hard earned money.

Fluffy, you can whine/bitch/moan all you want to, make any comparision you choose, buy you are in the wrong here and it would be easiest if you just STFU and don't post about this again.

The people/kids were stupid for racing and myself and others hope they don't get their cars back and that they do get crushed. You are a dumb shit for marrying the ho bag to start with so don't start crying about it. Everybody makes wrong decisions, live with the consequences and don't look for sympathy because somebody always has had something worse happen than you in life.

If you beer bong the Drano, it will hit you a little quicker. Enjoy.
How am I whining/bitching/moaning? And exactly how am I in the wrong here, could you explain to me how one persons opionion on something is right and anothers is wrong? You're the one that took my original post the wrong way and went on the offense about it. And when did I start crying about the ho bag? I've taken everything in life as a learning experience, whether good or bad. I didnt come in here to start shit or look for people to talk trash too. I posted something and thats all it was, a fucking post. I never said that the retards out on 564 shouldnt have had their cars taken away, I merely said that I feel for them on losing their cars and not the reason they were impounded. Make sure you and tecnic1 get the good draino for me, I'd hate to have to do this twice.:D

[FLUFFY]

To be honest, I would be happy like a mofo if I found out a kid wasn't mine(especially when the kid is like no where close to 18). No more child support and more money for me. That would be a big chunk of dirt off my shoulder and not to mention to be free and single again woot. Thats just me though :)
Dont get me wrong, haha, shit was fucked up at first but I am definitely loving life now:)

[FATBITCH]

i think the hatch is my old one... if he spent 10K-15K its the fastest hatch ever... last i heard it was still my setup
just my 2 cents

[tecnic1]

i think the hatch is my old one... if he spent 10K-15K its the fastest hatch ever... last i heard it was still my setup
just my 2 centsfastest hatch ever?
that's a bold statement..

[Deirdrea ccchr]

I do think I can compare losing my car to losing my family because I have lost a wife and child. No they didnt pass away, it was more of a she turned out to be a complete ho bag after 6 years of being together and after a paternity test the child ended up not being mine after 3 years of thinking she was. So I DO know what its like to lose a family. And I also know what its like to lose a car. Mine was impounded almost two years ago after getting a DUI. Definitely the same initial depression and sadness watching your car become city property as it is finding out that you no longer have a family. My car was bought after the ex was gone and I see it more as a symbol of happiness and freedom and not just some random car that gets me from point A to point B and it was heartbreaking watching that shit get towed away. But I didnt go running around claiming it was BS that they took my car or blame others. I was mature enough to know that I fucked up and I took full responsibility.

Hardly ignorant when I'm speaking from personal experience in both situations. But thats just my perspective.


Fluffy, this is from a mother who has lost a child and let me tell you there is a vast difference. I know what you are trying to say, and i am sorry for your pain. I have lost a car, a 1949 merc, and it didnt compare to having to lay my child in a grave at such a young age. Just stop and think before you compare the two. Those caught street racing got a real big lesson in life. You play you pay! You can always get another ride! Dee

[b16 snatch]

If you are one of those people, kill yourself right now. Go get some draino, and drink it.
That is by far the most ignorant statement of all the really ignorant statements ever posted on drag.

finally! i don't have the most ignorant statement on drag anymore.

thanks FLUFFY :thup:

[MexDizzle]

Are you a nitwit? Do you even read? Your thoughts don't count.

hahaha....nitwit.....thats a good one.......listen here man if you cant argue your point with out going of subject please dont post.........

[MexDizzle]

Fluffy, this is from a mother who has lost a child and let me tell you there is a vast difference. I know what you are trying to say, and i am sorry for your pain. I have lost a car, a 1949 merc, and it didnt compare to having to lay my child in a grave at such a young age. Just stop and think before you compare the two. Those caught street racing got a real big lesson in life. You play you pay! You can always get another ride! Dee

sorry for you loss man.....

[growley]

hahaha....nitwit.....thats a good one.......listen here man if you cant argue your point with out going of subject please dont post.........
An 05'er telling ME not to post. I'm never really biased on join date, but THAT is funny. HAHA.

I can argue my subject. I haven't gone off topic. It's just peoples' refusal to think about what i'm saying.

And this arguing has gone off the subject of this thread enough.

[FLUFFY]

Dee- I am sorry for your loss and I don't compare mine to a loss like that. Never did I say that losing a car was equivalent to the death of a child or spouse, I said losing a child or spouse. Guess I should have been more specific as to what I meant by losing someone. Thought I made it clear in my other posts that was what I was talking about.

I would like to thank you also for what you are doing, along with other members of Drag, to help get us out of the negative spotlight in the media, law enforcement and the citizens of the area. I know you've been doing this for over 15 years and havent given up yet, you are a very strong and determined woman and I respect that greatly.

[Deirdrea ccchr]

sorry for you loss man.....

Thank you kindly.

[Deirdrea ccchr]

Dee- I am sorry for your loss and I don't compare mine to a loss like that. Never did I say that losing a car was equivalent to the death of a child or spouse, I said losing a child or spouse. Guess I should have been more specific as to what I meant by losing someone. Thought I made it clear in my other posts that was what I was talking about.

I would like to thank you also for what you are doing, along with other members of Drag, to help get us out of the negative spotlight in the media, law enforcement and the citizens of the area. I know you've been doing this for over 15 years and havent given up yet, you are a very strong and determined woman and I respect that greatly.

Thank you so much, i knew what you were trying to say, I am just kinda passionate about this cause. And thank you for seeing how hard we are all gonna work to make this work, nice to know you. dee

[DOHC crx VTEC]

these are the guys that make it bad for the rest of us......

Honestly, I disagree with you here. Street racing to me is typically just another form of "speeding" but with an opponent. Did they hurt anyone? No. Is it dangerous? Yes. As well as, Is driving a car dangerous? YES. Are you getting my point? Cops have been profiling the fuck out of altered car;s for year's now and they won't stop profiling us like people won't stop streetracing. Streetracing will live for ever! It's been around for quite some time!!! The guy's who lost there cars, I feel bad for. To me, My car is like a child to me. Although a car is replaceable and a Child isn't or family member, friend etc etc...It still has VALUE to you. Driving is a privelage, I know. But how would you feel if some one "impounded" your money? Basically that's what there doing with people's cars. How would they get to work easily? How will they get places in case of emergency's? I think the judge's and STATE Troopers are just being royal Dick head's. I mean State Trooper's are hott headed. They think that people should bow down to them. Fuuuuuck that. Sorry, i know my post may seem stupid, but it's how I feel.

[tecnic1]

But how would you feel if some one "impounded" your money? Basically that's what there doing with people's cars. How would they get to work easily? How will they get places in case of emergency's?
If your car is that important to you, don't street race it.
If you are using your money to break the law they will take it.

Bottom line again: Play with matches, you get burned.

[DOHC crx VTEC]

If your car is that important to you, don't street race it.
If you are using your money to break the law they will take it.

Bottom line again: Play with matches, you get burned.

That's entirely true. That's why I gave up street racing.

[MAD_DOHC]

That's entirely true. That's why I gave up street racing.

Your car should be reasonably fast to street race as well, something yours probably wasn't. Best you quit when you did.

That is the biggest problem I think. Kids and immature people get these cars meant for good gas mileage/looks/road trips and try racing every fucking thing out there. If there weren't so many stupid ass people out there, this wouldn't be so big a problem.

I'm sure if you ask, the majority of cops are probably car guys as well. They like nice cars. I've been pulled over in a couple of my cars just so the cop could talk to me about it. It's all the shit boxes or "ricers" out there that are making it hard on the rest of us. Domestic and Imports alike.

We as a car enthusiasts should perform a little community service; find all these shit boxes and put them out of there misery. Viva le` Resistance.

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

First, I feel sorry for the people that lost their cars, and I hope they get them back.

Now, with that out of the way. Most of the people who are caught racing are young kids with slow cars who don't think about the consequences of their actions until AFTER they get caught. That’s the reason they are caught in most cases. However, I cannot believe that they are the only ones who race on the street. Older individuals still race but are more careful about where, when, and usually think about what they are doing when they do it, and so they generally don't get caught as often.

Racing in any form is pretty much a basic part of human nature.

To the people who say that those who were racing are mis-representing us and giving us all a bad name. I personally think that’s an arrogant statement. Maybe the people who were caught racing are giving YOU a bad name, but if that is the case, and you don't race. You are certainly a minority on this website.

The fact is, nobody on this site so much as CARED that people were racing on I-564 until after it was busted. Now all of a sudden everybody has this new found malice towards the people out there, and you are ALL on the bandwagon. You all are like an angry mob without the pitchforks, just out for blood...

The people who lost their cars have enough on their hands right now. Cut them a break for cryin out loud because nobody else is going to…

[growley]

First, I feel sorry for the people that lost their cars, and I hope they get them back.

Now, with that out of the way. Most of the people who are caught racing are young kids with slow cars who don't think about the consequences of their actions until AFTER they get caught. That’s the reason they are caught in most cases. However, I cannot believe that they are the only ones who race on the street. Older individuals still race but are more careful about where, when, and usually think about what they are doing when they do it, and so they generally don't get caught as often.

Racing in any form is pretty much a basic part of human nature.

To the people who say that those who were racing are mis-representing us and giving us all a bad name. I personally think that’s an arrogant statement. Maybe the people who were caught racing are giving YOU a bad name, but if that is the case, and you don't race. You are certainly a minority on this website.

The fact is, nobody on this site so much as CARED that people were racing on I-564 until after it was busted. Now all of a sudden everybody has this new found malice towards the people out there, and you are ALL on the bandwagon. You all are like an angry mob without the pitchforks, just out for blood...

The people who lost their cars have enough on their hands right now. Cut them a break for cryin out loud because nobody else is going to…

Most of the that hit the nail right on the head.

[Deirdrea ccchr]

First, I feel sorry for the people that lost their cars, and I hope they get them back.

Now, with that out of the way. Most of the people who are caught racing are young kids with slow cars who don't think about the consequences of their actions until AFTER they get caught. That’s the reason they are caught in most cases. However, I cannot believe that they are the only ones who race on the street. Older individuals still race but are more careful about where, when, and usually think about what they are doing when they do it, and so they generally don't get caught as often.

Racing in any form is pretty much a basic part of human nature.

To the people who say that those who were racing are mis-representing us and giving us all a bad name. I personally think that’s an arrogant statement. Maybe the people who were caught racing are giving YOU a bad name, but if that is the case, and you don't race. You are certainly a minority on this website.

The fact is, nobody on this site so much as CARED that people were racing on I-564 until after it was busted. Now all of a sudden everybody has this new found malice towards the people out there, and you are ALL on the bandwagon. You all are like an angry mob without the pitchforks, just out for blood...

The people who lost their cars have enough on their hands right now. Cut them a break for cryin out loud because nobody else is going to…


Well i left my pitchfork at home, but this is an emotional topic. Some are angry, but everyone has been impacted by this. It just makes me sad to see young inexperienced kids try to drive like John Force in a sub compact. I read here once that a guy wanted to know how much damage could a neon do at 107mph, well first off when you crash the speed is doubled. lets see that would be 224 mph impact. I dont want to see anyone die from street racing. And it does happen.
I am sorry they have such a tough time, but at least they are here to pay thier dues. Yes it has brought the heat, but thats what happens.. Dee

[vmspionage]

personally i think the ricers should step it up and start t boning cop cars at 100 miles an hour when they try and do a rolling road block... might as well, u r already screwed.
:stupid:

[doughboy415]

Well personally I do believe they got what they deserved, I've been in this scene for 20yrs, and not once have I thought about racing down the interstate, never really been into racing, everyone is saying that was the safest place to race,because of limited traffic, well what would have happened if one of them had a blowout, lost controll and took the others out then you have a major crash on your hands, probably the other rows of racers would have run because they knew they were wrongthen you areout there alone with no emergency help. you should see the cars in the impound yard down here in gates county, that were taken for street racing, these guys knew they were in the wrong so they didnt fight to get there cars back, they just learned a expensive lesson.Personally I think they should lose their licsense and their rides, if not, they will try it again.I've kicked many guys out of my club when I got calls about them racing, we worked hard getting our name(TOTAL IMAGE) respected in the community,state and country(was appointed one of prez,bushes 1,000 points of lights for our charity work in 1994) so I wasnt going to let a few IDIOTS mess up our good name, so those FEW IDIOTS that got caught messed everybodies rep up, SO YES THEY DESERVE EVERYTHING COMING TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

[growley]

Well i left my pitchfork at home, but this is an emotional topic. Some are angry, but everyone has been impacted by this. It just makes me sad to see young inexperienced kids try to drive like John Force in a sub compact. I read here once that a guy wanted to know how much damage could a neon do at 107mph, well first off when you crash the speed is doubled. lets see that would be 224 mph impact. I dont want to see anyone die from street racing. And it does happen.
I am sorry they have such a tough time, but at least they are here to pay thier dues. Yes it has brought the heat, but thats what happens.. Dee
Where's the logic in that? There's no "speeding up" when you crash. Perhaps you're speaking about the impact? And FYI 107+107=214.

[DOHC crx VTEC]

Your car should be reasonably fast to street race as well, something yours probably wasn't. Best you quit when you did.

.

I'm sorry what? Are you trying to imply that my car is slow? It may not be a "12" second car, but it sure as hell beats a rice can. I mean, I may not street racing just because when some one toy's with me I more than likely will take the bait. But none of that 564 mess anymore. Just a little toy here and there. Mostly track, though.

[Deirdrea ccchr]

Where's the logic in that? There's no "speeding up" when you crash. Perhaps you're speaking about the impact? And FYI 107+107=214.

if you hit another car at 107 and the other car is running 65 or 70, thats what? you have 2 vehicles crash and its almost double. Pardon me if my #'s are a bit off, but you take 1 neon and one other car and head on hit, its death and terrible loss for familys. so my point is, at 107mph crash is deadly and hey Who wants to be DEAD right? dee

[kawgomoo]

:stupid:


lol yeah yeah im a dumbass i know :)

i have to admit we had to be the first people to get an import impounded for street racing in the tidewater area, almost ten years ago. it took nearly 6 months to get the car back. so i cant see why people are surprised to see this happening. its nothing new, and will continue to happen.

i havent street raced since, learned my lesson.

if you want to race go to the track... it is however a shame the cops are such assholes about parkin lot pimpin. but the way things are going now i dont see the state being real eager to give us a "middle ground"

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

Car A (2000lbs) or (907.18kg) travelling north at (107mph) or (47.83 m/s) meets car B (3000lbs) or (1360.77kg) which is also travelling north at (60mph) or (26.82m/s).

kinetic energy formula= 1/2*m*(v*v)

Car A
.5*907.18kg*(47.83 m/s*47.83 m/s)
.5*907.18kg*2287.71m/s
453.59kg*2287.71m/s
= 1,037,682.38 Joules of kinetic energy travelling north

Car B
.5*1360.77kg*(26.82m/s*26.82m/s)
.5*1360.77*719.31m/s
680.38kg*719.31m/s
= 489,404.14 Joules of kinetic energy travelling north

The TOTAL kinetic energy is:
1,037,682.38 - 489,404.14 <--both cars are travelling in the same direction
= 548,278.24 Joules of kinetic energy.

Final Velocity of both A and B as result of the accident
907.18kg*47.83m/s = 43,481.14 <-- momentum of A just before collision
1360.77kg*26.82m/s = 36,495.85 <-- momentum of B just before collision
2267.95kg<-->79,976.99 <-- momentum of both vehicles after crash

79976.99/2267.95= 35.26m/s

35.26m/s = 115.68fps = 78.87mph

Car A will decelerate 28.13mph nearly instantaneously
Car B will accelerate 18.18mph nearly instantaneously

Assuming neither car hits a solid barrier (which is not likely) the impact on car A will be the same as hitting a solid wall with the same contact area as the rear of car B at 28.13mph, and car B will see the same damage as hitting a solid wall with the same contact area as the front of car A at 18.18mph.

But the largest threat would be actually hitting the median strip head on at 78.87mph AFTER the collision has taken place.

Somebody could very well survive the initial collision, but it is all up to chance when it comes down to hitting the median or not. You never know, you might hit the wall and die. You might not... Not a good situation either way though.

[DOHC crx VTEC]

^^^
I'm thinking about putting a roll cage in the CRX since it has NO body,door,bumper supports for real at all....Not safe and I know I may get in an accident, I don't want to lose my life:(

[Deirdrea ccchr]

Car A (2000lbs) or (907.18kg) travelling north at (107mph) or (47.83 m/s) meets car B (3000lbs) or (1360.77kg) which is also travelling north at (60mph) or (26.82m/s).

kinetic energy formula= 1/2*m*(v*v)

Car A
.5*907.18kg*(47.83 m/s*47.83 m/s)
.5*907.18kg*2287.71m/s
453.59kg*2287.71m/s
= 1,037,682.38 Joules of kinetic energy travelling north

Car B
.5*1360.77kg*(26.82m/s*26.82m/s)
.5*1360.77*719.31m/s
680.38kg*719.31m/s
= 489,404.14 Joules of kinetic energy travelling north

The TOTAL kinetic energy is:
1,037,682.38 - 489,404.14 <--both cars are travelling in the same direction
= 548,278.24 Joules of kinetic energy.

Final Velocity of both A and B as result of the accident
907.18kg*47.83m/s = 43,481.14 <-- momentum of A just before collision
1360.77kg*26.82m/s = 36,495.85 <-- momentum of B just before collision
2267.95kg<-->79,976.99 <-- momentum of both vehicles after crash

79976.99/2267.95= 35.26m/s

35.26m/s = 115.68fps = 78.87mph

Car A will decelerate 28.13mph nearly instantaneously
Car B will accelerate 18.18mph nearly instantaneously

Assuming neither car hits a solid barrier (which is not likely) the impact on car A will be the same as hitting a solid wall with the same contact area as the rear of car B at 28.13mph, and car B will see the same damage as hitting a solid wall with the same contact area as the front of car A at 18.18mph.

But the largest threat would be actually hitting the median strip head on at 78.87mph AFTER the collision has taken place.

Somebody could very well survive the initial collision, but it is all up to chance when it comes down to hitting the median or not. You never know, you might hit the wall and die. You might not... Not a good situation either way though.

Thanks Hatch, i welcome the stats, and somewhat understood, but like you the end results is not good.

Hey i got one for ya, lol what are the odds against an almost 60 woman (me) finding the "tiny" screw on my steering (72 VW stock) wheel assembly to replace the iginition switch ????? wish me luck!

[boogie]

That's some crazy math there! hahaha