10 on our side

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

Wavy news has done a nice job at showing our side of the story, unlike 3 and 13. Wavy has asked me to relay to this forum that they are still trying to help find a solution to our problem of not having a place to meet and not having a place to race. They have asked their chopper pilot John Massey, and the chopper videographer, Tom Marks, to keep an eye out for a suitable unused airstrip or stretch of abandoned road. They have also told me that they have gotten calls from a couple of sympathetic viewers who have said they may be able to help get us a place to meet.

[BanzaiWRX]

cool.

now we just have to keep the asswads out.

[1foxbody]

cool.

now we just have to keep the asswads out.

yup

[Victum]

sweet

[spidsta]

wow

[elambz]

to keep an eye out for a suitable unused airstrip or stretch of abandoned road.
This isn't gonna help. We don't need to find places to race, we need a place to hang out. Finding us a place to race is promoting street racing. What they need to do is help us get a track. A REAL track. I don't think anyone here is asking for some over the top track, just a place where people can race legally. I can't imagine paving over an abandoned airstrip would be that big of a cost to the city, when the potential for a street racing accident could be a lot more costly.

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

Thats what they are trying to help us get started. The land does not need to have a huge facility on it to be used as a track, as long as the air strip is unused the land could be leased or bought for us to use as a track. If there is an abandoned road it can be used as a track. All the aspects, legal and otherwise can be worked out after we find a suitable strip.

But the main problem we have is finding a suitable place. In any case, they will have a much better view of the area from the air so maybe they will be able to find something.

As for a place to meet, I am sure we may be able to do that way before there is a place to run around here. But if we do get a place where we can meet then you need to follow the rules while you are there and if you want to run somebody then you'd better not do it anywhere near the spot where we meet...

[soulDistortion]

so... who remembers 757ontrack?

yeah.

this is pipe-dream stuff, unfortunately.

finding a suitable place isn't the problem, it's the red-tape that comes after it.

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

We are not talking about building a motorsports park here. I dont see how thats a pipe dream, if somebody privately owns land that has an airstrip on it that is no longer used it would not be difficult to lease the land and sign waivers whenever we want to use it. I dont see this as a pipe dream because this is a very small scale deal compared to what has been proposed before...

[soulDistortion]

Here's the thing: for you to be able to have a "meet" spot, asides from the obvious things like finding a place and getting permission, would be showing to the owner of the land that it is worth the risk of letting people be there.

Things would go fine for a short time, until it starts getting known. And then what? Unless you can assure and show to the authorities, as well the owner, that you can maintain control of anyone on the property at all times, the risk far outweighs the rewards. Also, you can't even let people allude to the idea that people are going to go off on their own and race afterwards, because that's plenty of reason for officials to put unwanted pressure on the meet organizers.

IIRC, the owner of the AMES lot didn't mind people hanging out on the property, so as long as they kept it clean. As soon that incident happened, his insurance skyrocketed because of the liability, and everyone got permanently kicked out.

Don't take my comments as me flat-out dismissing your idea. I do applaud the effort. However, having seen this idea kicked around for a few years with no real success, I'm just stating the type of crap you'll have to deal with in making this happen.

You guys are going to have to find a major financial backer to float the costs of both land usage and insurance.

[(F-)]

gonna have to suck mad city-council cock too

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

This isn't gonna help. We don't need to find places to race, we need a place to hang out. Finding us a place to race is promoting street racing. What they need to do is help us get a track. A REAL track. I don't think anyone here is asking for some over the top track, just a place where people can race legally. I can't imagine paving over an abandoned airstrip would be that big of a cost to the city, when the potential for a street racing accident could be a lot more costly.

Cost to the city? Why should the city have to pay for a track to be built? Tracks aren't public stuff... they are private businesses.. someone would have to build the track on their own, organize it, etc, the only part the city can play is cooperating with the laws of allowing it.

I think it'd be cool to see something done with an airstrip similar to what they did a few years back in cali at that stadium lot. There's actually a lot of places around the country that do similar, though not regularly. I can't think off the top of my head where it is, but i've heard of a couple small airports that a couple times a year do special events where they mark the 1/4 mile and set up the proper safety stuff and have a racing event.

In my opinion, a real track won't prevent street racing. you have to re-create the street environment legally if you want to cut down on it.

I the midwest they have the "real street drags" where they have special nights at the track where the track is not prepped like it would be for a pro event, so it's closer to street-like, and you pick and choose who you want to run, with the boards off. you can spot people cars, go from a flag or a light, or whatever, and race for money.. it's pretty cool.

[CarsRFun]

good to hear..

[Will Sol]

gonna have to suck mad city-council cock too


Thats why you will be useful.... no one has more suction power per square inch than you buddy.

;)

[SteveOlicious]

Why doesn't someone hit up the Hampton Colliseum or something. I mean, that place isn't used everyday. I'm sure if they charged a few bucks a night when the place isn't being used in the first place, they would enjoy it.

[HORNY4ZORNY]

Wavy news has done a nice job at showing our side of the story, unlike 3 and 13. Wavy has asked me to relay to this forum that they are still trying to help find a solution to our problem of not having a place to meet and not having a place to race. They have asked their chopper pilot John Massey, and the chopper videographer, Tom Marks, to keep an eye out for a suitable unused airstrip or stretch of abandoned road. They have also told me that they have gotten calls from a couple of sympathetic viewers who have said they may be able to help get us a place to meet.


sounds like a set-up for another bust if you ask me.

there going to find this abondoned road, tell us let us race there a couple times, call the cops set another bust up and they'll be the 1st ones on the scene and get the full story before anyone else.

i wouldnt trust them

[(F-)]

In my opinion, a real track won't prevent street racing. you have to re-create the street environment legally if you want to cut down on it.

I the midwest they have the "real street drags" where they have special nights at the track where the track is not prepped like it would be for a pro event, so it's closer to street-like, and you pick and choose who you want to run, with the boards off. you can spot people cars, go from a flag or a light, or whatever, and race for money.. it's pretty cool.
they had that in cali.
its called friday night fights.

[NA_no_BOOST]

Hey I heard AIK in Portsmouth has givin us permission to meet there in their parking lot, the old ames spot we used to meet at in Portsmouth....that's only a rumor, so I can look more in to it or someone else can....so I guess I will keep people informed on it...

[JDM03]

My heart goes out to everyone that had their car taken from them the other night. Good luck in court.

[SteveOlicious]

My heart goes out to everyone that had their car taken from them the other night. Good luck in court.

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

I really hope you are kidding.

That's like saying:

"My heart goes out to the guy who pulled an uzi out on 15 cops and got shot, good luck in hell."

[HORNY4ZORNY]

My heart goes out to everyone that had their car taken from them the other night. Good luck in court.


sorry to say but they had it coming....

they raced out there to many times, and believe it or not cops arent idiots

[91 Hatch]

somebody figure out how to get the Suffolk track back open. Its a 1/4 mile track that closed in the late 80's early 90's.

[(F-)]

where? info!!now!!

[Voodoo ST]

You guys talk about having a piece of land and putting a strip on it......... I tried to petition the city of Chesapeke back in 2002-2003 to let me build a small strip out in the Hickory area of Chesapeake. I was buying the land myself and was gonna have this built, private property and private strip. I jumped through hoops and tons of red tape and they still denied me oppurtuity to build a recreational facility for cars.

Its alot harder and there is a more higher power that will not allow this to happen, the citys just simply dont want it here period and its a shame.

Shawn

[Voodoo ST]

somebody figure out how to get the Suffolk track back open. Its a 1/4 mile track that closed in the late 80's early 90's.


As far as that goes, it was closed due to a hump in the track right at the 1/8 mile that was causing some bad wrecks and they didnt want to put the money into re-doing the track. Suffolk Raceway

[(F-)]

You guys talk about having a piece of land and putting a strip on it......... I tried to petition the city of Chesapeke back in 2002-2003 to let me build a small strip out in the Hickory area of Chesapeake. I was buying the land myself and was gonna have this built, private property and private strip. I jumped through hoops and tons of red tape and they still denied me oppurtuity to build a recreational facility for cars.

Its alot harder and there is a more higher power that will not allow this to happen, the citys just simply dont want it here period and its a shame.

Shawn
i dont mean to sound nieave, but we may have a chance now. I cant get enuf money to even try. a half a mil sounds like alot.....

[(F-)]

wow, i really suck at spelling on the computer

[NEO_WRX]

As far as that goes, it was closed due to a hump in the track right at the 1/8 mile that was causing some bad wrecks and they didnt want to put the money into re-doing the track. Suffolk Raceway

damn that sucks that they were too cheap to just repair a bad grade in some land. I've been a heavy equipment operator in the Air Force for the last 3 years and all we do is pavement maintenance and repair and it's not too difficult to cut out a patch, dig up the base course, level it off, compact it and than patch it back up. If anyone attempts to try to get the track back open by repairing the "hump" let me know and i can do what i can.

[MerF]

damn that sucks that they were too cheap to just repair a bad grade in some land. I've been a heavy equipment operator in the Air Force for the last 3 years and all we do is pavement maintenance and repair and it's not too difficult to cut out a patch, dig up the base course, level it off, compact it and than patch it back up. If anyone attempts to try to get the track back open by repairing the "hump" let me know and i can do what i can.
You're comparing gov't grade work with something that has to undergo scrutiny from an insurance/safety liability inspector.

Not quite the same, I imagine.

[ultra spikey]

anyone know how the people at www.racelegal.com got started? it'd be nice if we had something like that here.

[NEO_WRX]

You're comparing gov't grade work with something that has to undergo scrutiny from an insurance/safety liability inspector.

Not quite the same, I imagine.

i understand what you mean, and your probably right but something is better than nothing.I've patched run ways that can support multi-million dollar aircraft traveling at extremely high speeds, so i can't imagine it would be that difficult to patch some asphalt at a track. Leveling the base course isn't difficult and than patching the spot shouldn't be a problem either, i've seen plenty of small cracks and fissures in the asphalt as other tracks and they are still in operation.

[J-DIRTY30]

As far as that goes, it was closed due to a hump in the track right at the 1/8 mile that was causing some bad wrecks and they didnt want to put the money into re-doing the track. Suffolk Raceway

you know I had always wondered about that track and why it was closed. HMMM that would be nice if they revamped that place. its not a far drive either.

[(F-)]

where is it at? i just want to go look

[J-DIRTY30]

its off of 58 going twards 95 on the left hand side. you can't miss it. thats the first thing i saw when i came to virginia.

[(F-)]

how do i get to the 58 from the 64?

[dru]

take 64east all the way around until it forks into 58/military/other exits and 664 you cant miss it

its pretty far if youre in the beach

or you can take 264east all the way to the end then itll fork into those two exits again

[Qwiksillva]

So does anyone know who currently owns the land the Suffolk track is on?

If so, I think it would be good to make contact with them and bring up the idea of repaving the track and reopening it.

Around here, a track would bring in A LOT of income. Whether ricers, enthusiasts, or true dragsters... the income will be there. A reopening of a track has a ton of potential here.

If the idea is something feasible to the owner of the land, then we should get on trying to pull up some estimates on what the construction would run to reopen as well as the steps to complete it. Someone would also need to find out how much would need to be charged to run on the track to compensate for the building/reopening costs so that it is profitable. The main incentive here would be to remind ourselves of the market potential of a track here locally in the 757.

Remember - money talks. With enough of it, you can do nearly anything you want.

[SignfcntOthr]

I think it's great that Wavy is willing to help us find a place to keep things off the street. Hopefully they've been scanning the board and have seen that quite a few individuals have looked into a track in the area and have found some outlets that may prove worth exploring.

Media pressure can open some doors for us that may have previously been locked/barricaded to us.

[WutupYo]

Media pressure can open some doors for us that may have previously been locked/barricaded to us.
definatley...

and it will bring A LOT more attention to it, than it has been before, just throughout the forums. especially with everyone seeing the news about the bust...

[JDM03]

sorry to say but they had it coming....

they raced out there to many times, and believe it or not cops arent idiots


Yeah I'm sure they did...but it still SUCKS to have your car taken. I personally have never street raced for that reason BUT to each their own.

[Qwiksillva]

Yeah I'm sure they did...but it still SUCKS to have your car taken. I personally have never street raced for that reason BUT to each their own.

O really? Then what the heck is your signature all about?

No more drag car, but still racing... okay sure. Not streetracing? I think not.

[vasponger]

Hey I heard AIK in Portsmouth has givin us permission to meet there in their parking lot, the old ames spot we used to meet at in Portsmouth....that's only a rumor, so I can look more in to it or someone else can....so I guess I will keep people informed on it...


ehh just rumor, if people did just hang out there, it would be cool until about midnight on the weekend.

[Mr. Projekt]

. keep an eye out for a suitable unused airstrip or stretch of abandoned road.


cool.

now we just have to keep the asswads out.


lets ask them to keep an eye out for some place with GATES and FENCES!!!! :D


but seriously... what about off indian river and military hwy... there is like a HUGE parking lot behind those little stores (A-1 plumbing, a few used car dealerships, theres a night club right there...)

if youre going down towards greenbriar area on military hwy... it's on the left... does anyone know anything about those lots??? i mean it's HUGE back there...

[Mr. Projekt]

O really? Then what the heck is your signature all about?

No more drag car, but still racing... okay sure. Not streetracing? I think not.

oh shit!

:0wned:

:p

[SlowLS]

anyone know how the people at www.racelegal.com got started? it'd be nice if we had something like that here.
I was thinking the same thing.

[1hotgts]

Just know, our police force isn't the only ones cracking down on street racers. If you do a search of street racing, you see that every city is trying to stop it. I even found a guide they give officers about street racing and how to determine who to pull over.
http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/mime/open.pdf?Item=1418

[sucio7]

Just know, our police force isn't the only ones cracking down on street racers. If you do a search of street racing, you see that every city is trying to stop it. I even found a guide they give officers about street racing and how to determine who to pull over.
http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/mime/open.pdf?Item=1418


very interesting

[KyleVA]

http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/mime/open.pdf?Item=1418

LMAO @ the Asian/Hispanic crowd.

[blah]

Just know, our police force isn't the only ones cracking down on street racers. If you do a search of street racing, you see that every city is trying to stop it. I even found a guide they give officers about street racing and how to determine who to pull over.
http://www.cops.usdoj.gov/mime/open.pdf?Item=1418
I'll give props to Officer Glensor and Dr. Peaks for writing that. They definitely did their research and pretty much hit the nail on the head. :thup:

[Mr. Projekt]

I'll give props to Officer Glensor and Dr. Peaks for writing that. They definitely did their research and pretty much hit the nail on the head. :thup:


wonder how they got SO MUCH info....

[1hotgts]

wonder how they got SO MUCH info....

If you read over the paper, it tells you how they have compiled the info. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. Everything that the street racers think of has already be thought up and tried many times over.

I still recall the crackdown about 5 years ago in Sandbridge where they had 2 choppers and about a dozen cars waiting on the racers there. There was also an undercover in a car with a camera filming it all. Most of you weren't even driving when this happened. That made the news and I still have it on tape. Looked like a scene from F&F before the movie was even made...

I have an idea on not getting caught DON'T DO IT!!!!

I would love a place to hang out but there is always that damn dozen people who screw it up for all of us so I quit coming out. There was a comment on here one time about me loosing my temper at a meet but that would probably be me yelling at some idiot screwing it up for all of us.
Not trying to be rude to anyone...Just my $.02

[Mr. Projekt]

I would love a place to hang out but there is always that damn dozen people who screw it up for all of us so I quit coming out. There was a comment on here one time about me loosing my temper at a meet but that would probably be me yelling at some idiot screwing it up for all of us.
Not trying to be rude to anyone...Just my $.02

trust me... im with you on that... i know youre not trying to be rude... i actually dont blame you at all one bit...

any ideas on a spot?

[The_rabbit1]

I also tried to open up a strip in VA beach but zoning won't allow it. they say VB is a retirement community and the noise is too much for all the retirees. Now if this track is on 58 and far enuff away from any other major communities it might just work. and if people r stupid enuff to leave there and race down 58...Good luck!

[The_rabbit1]

Also a true race track isn't made of asphalt. It's solid concrete. the track at denwitty i believe was redone like 2-3yrs ago and it cost somewhere around .5-1million. drag suspension is stiffer than airplane suspension and will not accomodate a wavy track it has to b really straight.

[WutupYo]

I also tried to open up a strip in VA beach but zoning won't allow it. they say VB is a retirement community and the noise is too much for all the retirees. Now if this track is on 58 and far enuff away from any other major communities it might just work. and if people r stupid enuff to leave there and race down 58...Good luck!
iits a retirement community and its too loud for a track to be here, yet we have jet planes in the air 24/7????

[The_rabbit1]

iits a retirement community and its too loud for a track to be here, yet we have jet planes in the air 24/7????

Tell me about it, zoning shrugged their shoulders at me when i said that.

[JDM03]

O really? Then what the heck is your signature all about?

No more drag car, but still racing... okay sure. Not streetracing? I think not.


My signature is about me getting hounded about having a "drag" car (it wasnt streetable)....so I made it where I could drive it down the street and show it off if I wanted to.....BUT not race. You see I can drive down the road and not haveta race :cool:

[Vector]

I did a quick search for Suffolk drag strip and got this article from the Virginia Pilot back in 1994. It seems there used to be two tracks around here, Suffolk Speedway and Creeds Dragway. I wonder if either of them exist anymore.

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1994/vp941021/10210787.htm

[(F-)]

im going to go look at the suffolk strip in about 20min

[red2001ss]

Also a true race track isn't made of asphalt. It's solid concrete. the track at denwitty i believe was redone like 2-3yrs ago and it cost somewhere around .5-1million. drag suspension is stiffer than airplane suspension and will not accomodate a wavy track it has to b really straight.


VMP just re-did the track again this year.

[Mongoose87]

Suffolk dragway is now part of an airfield, the grandstands are still standing.

[boostedgst97]

man i want a spot here somehwere. suffolk is in the middle for most people. i doubt it will happen but hey its what everybody calls wishful thinking

[elambz]

lets ask them to keep an eye out for some place with GATES and FENCES!!!! :D


but seriously... what about off indian river and military hwy... there is like a HUGE parking lot behind those little stores (A-1 plumbing, a few used car dealerships, theres a night club right there...)

if youre going down towards greenbriar area on military hwy... it's on the left... does anyone know anything about those lots??? i mean it's HUGE back there...
Checkered Flag and other dealerships used to use that as an overflow lot. Its just a carpet rolled out there, the ground is terrible. That place would destroy a bunch of cars. I have no idea who owns the land though. I used to know the password to the keybox though. :D

[yllalnad]

good stuff

[1BDAZM]

Checkered Flag and other dealerships used to use that as an overflow lot. Its just a carpet rolled out there, the ground is terrible. That place would destroy a bunch of cars. I have no idea who owns the land though. I used to know the password to the keybox though. :D


I believe that the lots you are referring to are owned by The Ford Motor Company. This is never gonna happen. Virginia Beach and the surrounding areas are to uptight to allow anything of the sort. I did hear that there was a guy that was gonna open a track and the city and surrounding citizens bitched about it. So the man in return sokd the land to the local Waste Management and they installed a waste treatment faciulty. Sorry guys but VA BCH sucks.

[WishIHadaSilvia]

I wrote a paper on the street racing problem that SOCAL faced after the first FandF and how the only way to successfully reduce street racing is to increase fines AND build a legal outlet for people to race. If you guys think street racing is a problem...wait for 3F3F.

I personally think the city does need to do something, if it isn't apparent that there is a problem yet they'll see one in the summer of 06. If they don't see one then, then they never will. If you guys look back at the accident at Ames a while back it occurred 2 months after the release of 2F2F...this summer will definitely be interesting.

[The_rabbit1]

when is that movie supposed to come out?(3f3f)

[gofastr110]

has anybody thought about trying Fentress Airfield? its off of Mt. Plesant. i have a link 2 mapquest if u dont know were it is. ive heard that they have autocross events out there. im sure it would be suitable if we can get on it.

[Jarrod]

Suffolk dragway is now part of an airfield, the grandstands are still standing.Very true. My stepdad said he used to run out there, and he said the airport just want'd their strip back; it wasn't any dip that he remembered.

I know the creeds thing has been said, but where is it located? I know where the suffolk one is.



I'll support any of this, even though I can't do much.

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

Support is what we need more of.

[Slimsta Jimsta]

Support is what we need more of.
i'm trying to sell my SPOON rear lower tie-bar, it reinforces the subframe.. i guess you could call it a support, 90 dollars and it's yours :D haha

[Zack]

All this talk of suffolk re-opening, why dont you just go down to elisabeth city. I do believe it would be alot closer. From what i hear they are going from 1/8th to a 1/4 here soon.

[Jarrod]

All this talk of suffolk re-opening, why dont you just go down to elisabeth city. I do believe it would be alot closer. From what i hear they are going from 1/8th to a 1/4 here soon.I love the hertford track. Seriously, noone is a asshole out there; I just don't like going out there by myself, and none of my friends "like running the 1/8".

When my stepdad gets his car together, I'll be out there more. Dinwiddie(sp?) is fun, but the wait in the lines isn't. I got about 6 runs in, in about 2 hours on a friday night at Herford. And plus, I got raped almost everytime by a younger 5.0 owner... :)

[stein]

My boss use to be a VaBeach cop (Ret) and he tells me that the two drag strips that use to be around here closed down back in the late 70's because of several factors: spectator turnout was low, especially on cold nights; racers & spectators complained that the fees were too much; The track after the finish line didn't have enough room to fully stop and several cars slammed into the wall; When the track started to go to crap, rather than repair it they shut it down.

If this has any truth to it I don't see anyone building a track that is going to loose money. I can’t even imagine how much $ it takes to run and maintain a track; I would imagine fees are going to be high if one were built around here.

[Jarrod]

My boss use to be a VaBeach cop (Ret) and he tells me that the two drag strips that use to be around here closed down back in the late 70's because of several factors: spectator turnout was low, especially on cold nights; racers & spectators complained that the fees were too much; The track after the finish line didn't have enough room to fully stop and several cars slammed into the wall; When the track started to go to crap, rather than repair it they shut it down.

If this has any truth to it I don't see anyone building a track that is going to loose money. I can’t even imagine how much $ it takes to run and maintain a track; I would imagine fees are going to be high if one were built around here. I'll put it to you like this, if I didn't have to drive 45mins to a hour to get to a track, I'd be there every saturday and friday; either to watch or race.

[catfSSh]

has anybody thought about trying Fentress Airfield? its off of Mt. Plesant. i have a link 2 mapquest if u dont know were it is. ive heard that they have autocross events out there. im sure it would be suitable if we can get on it.

thats about 5 minutes from my house, id say its a great spot locationwise because theres noone to really complain (whats worse drag cars or jets taking off at midnight) and its close to the 7 cities

someone should try to find out the background on that place, who owns it, would they be interested in building a strip, and so on.

theres plenty of locations to build, just other setbacks that come with something like this.

[Rosco The Iroc]

Of course those tracks closed then, with the gas crunch and the cars they where making then, it shifted to the hardcore prof racing. But it's changed and come back to the basics. So a track might do ok. AS other people noted, it's the zoneing that kills any projects, So it's great 10 wants to help,
We need a city counsel to get behind it to push it through all the BS challanges for noise/runoff/traffic/how do they get to tax it for their cut of the action?

[nothing.]

http://www.geocities.com/homni_ca/bittersweetco/pipedreams.JPG

[nothing.]

thats about 5 minutes from my house, id say its a great spot locationwise because theres noone to really complain (whats worse drag cars or jets taking off at midnight) and its close to the 7 cities

someone should try to find out the background on that place, who owns it, would they be interested in building a strip, and so on.

theres plenty of locations to build, just other setbacks that come with something like this.
all of this has been done, a year+ ago. It won't happen.

[SignfcntOthr]

Seen as Fentress is still an active airfield used by the Navy (I'm assuming owned by them, too), and the area's politicians are trying to keep the Navy from relocating their Master Jet base, I don't think that idea is going to work.

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

So what exactly happened to the Suffolk Raceway? I have been looking into it and the track has seen some huge turnouts when it was still around. It was NHRA sanctioned and they hosted events there. You said the stands are still visible from the highway? If the stands are still sitting next to the track then how could it be used by an aircraft at all? I dont see this strip being used as a runway with stands off the side. I think this may be our best shot.

[blah]

Suffolk ≠ Fentress


:)

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

I dont think fentress would allow us to put any electronic equipment for time slips or staging on their runway. I doubt they would even let us use it for a dragrace...

[SHOFEAR94]

I have talked to News directors form every major tv station in this area and the idea that the media is trying to trap us for future ratings is stupid. I have to agree WAVY seems to be offering the most unbiased reporting thus far, giving a fantastic report from the Mt Trashmore gathering on Sunday and concluding with two very important notes.. "These car enthuisiasts just want a place to hang out and a track to race on.." what else is there to be said?

[gofastr110]

i dont know wut fentress would let us do. all i know is they did let autocross events out there all the time on sundays. but it is still used by the navy/airforce i believe, so it is probably diffucult 2 get out there.

[blah]

i dont know wut fentress would let us do. all i know is they did let autocross events out there all the time on sundays. but it is still used by the navy/airforce i believe, so it is probably diffucult 2 get out there.
That was before it was reactivated as an base.

Auto-crosses went on there for a while afterwards, but you had to have your name on a list and they did a background checks. If you weren't on the list (including spectators) you didn't get in. Not sure if they still let everyone out there still since they do their thing in Pungo now.

[ritz]

How about we just race at VMP, Richmond or Northeast?

It's really not that hard.

[SignfcntOthr]

Please, leave the tech talk out of this thread. Promote ideas, or explain why you think the idea has a flaw so we can work on it. I think the majority know it's pretty much a pipe dream, but I am curious as to where any media help can take us.

[ritz]

The media can pull but so many strings.

They can't pull one big enough to land us a track. The funding/insurance would be so ridiculous. It's not going to happen.

[ritz]

Please just stop. Keep the thread on topic. I have deleted our few off topic posts.

[1BDAZM]

LOL its cool I just think you know the point I was trying to make

[Deirdrea ccchr]

i am the president of the car club council of hampton roads and for years i have worked with young clubs, i know the way you are all grouped up and i feel it is WRONG. Our first year with the council we had the clubs Total Image Minis and Neighborhood Dreamz who were considered outstanding clubs.Were given trophys by the city.. I know you feel you are alone but your not. You have an open invitation to our meetings. There are people who want to help you find a plce to meet and a track to run on. The suffolk Drag Strip IS an airfield, so thats not an option anymore. I can put you in contact with established racers and worked there. Why i even ran my trike there once. So please give us a chance to help.

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

Any help you could give us would be appreciated and welcomed.

[Hal]

Hello,
Dee is absolutley right when she says you're being "grouped" into something and shown in a negative light. We have the Virginia Peninusla Car Club Council to work to with the auto enthusiasts locally. As a matter of fact there are 5 councils in the state of Virginia to help work together! There are ways to help each and contribute to your area. First off is having good club leaders who are examples ... you know right from wrong, but sometimes we need a settle reminder too! We work with the local law enforcement agencies on one of the biggest car charity events in the area. This is just one way to help met and grow relationships. When people met and learn how great you are and you are against illegal activies things happen for you.
We have people who can run auto-crosses, tech seccessions and more. Want to race going to Langley during their one on ones events during the season. We can help get you to the right contacts for this.
Enoguh peaching .. let me know how we can help.
Hal

[SpeedJunkie]

I did a quick search for Suffolk drag strip and got this article from the Virginia Pilot back in 1994. It seems there used to be two tracks around here, Suffolk Speedway and Creeds Dragway. I wonder if either of them exist anymore.

http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1994/vp941021/10210787.htm

If I remember right Creeds is a Virginia Beach Police training facility now.



I remember when Doc Jones and I worked real hard on 757ontrack and didn't get much support. We came up with lots of good ideas but enough people didn't want to do the work to reap the benefits. I wouldn’t mind helping organizing things again if people were willing to put forth the effort.

[sucio7]

track means no ticket no ticket no budget for the state no good

[NA_no_BOOST]

anyword on ptown....?

[IllCiViC0144]

I hear there an abandoned air strip out in i think the pungo area.....hasnt been used in years a mechanic at my job told me about it.....

[elambz]

I hear there an abandoned air strip out in i think the pungo area.....hasnt been used in years a mechanic at my job told me about it.....That would be Creeds I believe...

[crxgsr2004]

There an abandon airfield in Smithfield, if you don't mind paying the toll to get to it. I mean its just some food for thought if any of you would like to check into it

[Hatch Man(GsR)]

How much is the toll?

We need to come up with a solid plan here.